Deep Space 9 Mafia - Game Over!

:ohyes: With the proviso that we can change from Andre if he argues his case well enough like he seems to want to do.

I think the rest of us seem fairly well caught up and should be close to three picks.
Most of us have said them, but we have not put it into a vote now or shut up context.
Many have said me but not voted me. Many have said Andre but not voted Andre.
Many have said Mantis but not voted you.

Let get it out in the open and as plain and simple as we can get it.

KISS
Keep It Simple Stupid.

I only really have Urist as a player I would vote for and not feel like I am more often than not helping to lynch Town. I just see too many signs pointing his way and canā€™t seem to look past them. I think Mantis is also a possibility, but less so (and canā€™t really make a convincing case in my head as to why). I Town Read Judge most strongly, and have MS, Cats and Pyx as a second tier of Town (though Cats a nudge above MS and Pyx, and Pyx above MS). I have really liked Pyxā€™s contributions and posts lately, and so do not really want to vote for him either. I could vote MS too if it came to it I guess, but would be holding my nose down and closing my eyes while doing so.

Summary:
Would vote for: {Urist, Mantis, MS}

CATSPURR
Andre
Metal
Mantis

METAL SONIC
Andre
Urist
Catspurr

ANDRES
Urist
Mantis
Metal Sonic

Pyx seems to be away for the moment.
I am sure he will catch up.

Andre / 2
Urist / 2
Metal / 2
Mantis / 2
Cats / 1

for the record Iā€™m not so sure about catspurr being 3rd. After all this discussion. I think judgemental instead of cats.

if only because of the avatar

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CATSPURR
Andre
Metal
Mantis

METAL SONIC
Andre
Urist
Judge Mental

ANDRES
Urist
Mantis
Metal Sonic

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Andre / 2
Urist / 2
Metal / 2
Mantis / 2
Cats / 0
Judge Mental / 1

incomingā€¦ I donā€™t know how long this will beā€¦ I put it on Notepad first

(I would still recommend isoā€™ing Andres for yourself @anyone. Itā€™s not that long. And I plucked what I thought was relevant. No way I was going to analyze everything.

Anywayā€¦

Iā€™ve always thought this was awkward, each time I look at it

-Andres asks if Nanook will be a lurker
-skitters has questions for Andres, he ā€˜tacklesā€™ them
-votes Cats, shows suspicion there for a bit

More between him and skitter

and moreā€¦

moving on to MS

positive on Nanook

negative on Nanook

this sounds towny

-has quite a bit of back and forth with Screen (but has voted ActionDan previously)
-I say this to Andres:
Andres looks pretty okay. But I wasnā€™t a huge fan of the quick turn around on Screen after Nanook pointed out to him that thing about applying his own philosophy on him. It made me wonder if Andres became self conscious/ self aware that his vote on Screen looked potentially bad.

votes MS

bit of waffling on Nanook (this isnā€™t actually the 1st time that he puts Nanook as scummy, and says that maybe heā€™s playing to his scum meta, but then says he might also just be town

votes Josh

more stuff with Nanook (hard to say here)

-votes me (1383)
-unvotes me (1401)

Andres is the first to vote cabd

votes on smilodon

{{{End of Day 1}}} - no vote on Nanook

Day 2

-votes Judge

wonders/confused as to why cats is cleared for Nanook interactions but not him

stuff against cabd

cabd vote

-uses arguments to say Screen is town

highlights cabd

unvotes cabd

debates on what to do re cabd and MS

reads list

-votes pyx 2290
-says he is fine w Screen or pyx lynch in response to Urist 2294

wants to vote MS over cabd

screen and pyx stuff

-unvotes pyx 2798

end of day 2 stuff

{{{End of Day 2}}}

Day 3

-votes Josh 3126

claim

-unvotes Josh 3240

scum in Urist or Screenplay

(at this point, if Andres is the last scum, all he needs to do is push suspicion on other people). So thereā€™s not too much of a point looking into what he says too much).

Some conclusions:
-he had quite a bit of back and forth with skitter; but then skitter replaced out. Wasnā€™t accusatory towards skitter though
-lots of shading on Nanook, but no vote there
-lots of analysing of Nanookā€™s posts (ie looking solvey there)
-he did have an initial vote on cabd day 1 though, moved to smilodon
-waffling between MS and cabd - starts on MS, moves to cabd
-but before moving to cabd had pyx and Screen as questionable.

-votes screen 3922

reasoning on Screen

updated reads list

Essentially would vote for Pyx, Urist, myself

I am wondering if Andres, instead of pushing too hard on anyone (like he did in flappers - I looked at that game last week or so, and he pushed quite hard on others) - is instead taking more of a back seat and waiting for town to eat each other alive. I know he is busy with real life though. But, there is that sense that that could be whatā€™s happening. As said before, there are a lot of players that look like we are agonizing over the game.

MY INTENTION IS TO VOTE ANDRES

There are things that other people have done that just stick out a lot and seem like scum canā€™t do that. Thatā€™s not to say that I think Andres is for sure scum. But, I think a lot of analyzing can still be done as scum.

Cats for instance, went hard against Nanook day 1. Really hard. Then there was the whole PUT UP OR SHUT UP CABD, along with a solid vote on him.

Judge has pretty much wanted out of this game, and has been vocal about it! Not even in a bad way - but her agony is kind of palpable.

Urist said he would eat 1000 lunches/lynches if Screen was town. You just donā€™t do that kind of push, AT THIS POINT IN THE GAME, and risk it all, based on wanting the doc out. That and him sticking out for MS, when it was totally unnecessary. I also think it would have been idiotic for him and Nanook scum to both switch the lynch from cabd to smilodon. Co-ordinatting in the thread like that? I canā€™t imagine he would be that reckless.

MS, I really thought was scum, but Iā€™m tending to believe him when he says things like ā€œthis game has been the hardest, on mafia451ā€ He looks like heā€™s in agony too :s

Pyx, I brought him up already in this post

Iā€™m thinking he is town. But he would be my 2nd go to lynch.

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Oh weird, it doesnā€™t show the whole post when you link them. Means they have to be clicked onā€¦ Thatā€™s a bit annoying

I donā€™t think I have a number 3.

Just Andres. And then possibly pyx.

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Sorry Mantus, kinda need three for the Pool to be even?
I think? Donā€™t you think?

Anyway, I will place your list and see what others say.

[quote=ā€œcatspurr, post:4847, topic:983, full:trueā€]
CATSPURR
Andre
Metal
Mantis

METAL SONIC
Andre
Urist
Judge Mental

ANDRES
Urist
Mantis
Metal Sonic

MANTIS.
Andre
Pyx
?

Andre / 3
Urist / 2
Metal / 2
Mantis / 2
Cats / 0
Judge Mental / 1
Pyx / 1

No fair, you didnā€™t accept my ? When I gave it earlier for my pool!

Talk to Mantis

Or does everyone think we should accept two OR three votes?

I think 2 votes is fine (heheā€¦biased). But also, 3 would be fine, if a person hasnā€™t narrowed it down to 2

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Thereā€™s nothing wrong with mantis! But I think you are doing some pooling balloting trickery!

PurrrRrrrrrRrRrRrrrrrrrrrRRrrrrrrRRRRRRRRR

Okay.