I still donāt fully understand the DS stuff, if Iām salty at you itās because you literally bullied a townie and thought you were scum. I donāt care about the other stuff and weāre not even supposed to be talking about it, but you went after a townie and I do care about that. If that it hurting town team dynamics, then thatās not on me at least.
I donāt think with 100% certainty that all of Andres/StarV/Doggo/Wisp are town. Itās a start I guess but I am still with plenty of reservations.
What are these reservations?
Key had 2 lock town: Me & Andres
I have Andres as lock town
Andres has me as lock town
Do you think that thereās a chance that one of me or Andres is playing the other this hard despite the fact that we play most games together and we know not to town read each other for no reasonā¦ Or do you think that Key was full reverse, claiming 2 lock town that are actually both scum?
I have to say, neither theory is reasonable. Weāre just both town.
To be honest, for this blurb, you should have stopped here. Not knowing and commenting isnāt constructive and Iām trying to work with you because Iām fairly confident that you are town and Iām basically confirmed town by circumstance & by consensus reads.
Itās hard to not comment on something when people are basing their reads on it.
So instead of leaving it at 1/4 odds, you want to make it 1/1 odds. So that you can doā¦ what exactly? How are you contributing to narrowing the odds that we flip Scum? How does outing the Doctor make it easier for you to identify Scum? Particularly since you canāt even make a definitive claim that the Doctor is Town or Scum, and the Scum can use that to their advantage?
After the weird gladiate on Day 1, I was put in a spot where I literally could not be lynched. This is where my entire game strategy thus far was formed. Take a look at Mafia 451 Draft
Here, replying to my town lead read dusk, I made the above linked post. The first word of every sentence spells out āAct Scummy To Live Night.ā For day 1 after the gladiate, I realized my best path forward was to be mostly towny during the first parts of every day, but near the last 24 hours to act annoying/abrasive/scummy/town idioty. I did not want to die early in this game from a night kill, so I intentionally used my new user status to be disruptive and weird and whatever to make scum think that killing me was not in their best interest. The first parts of the day (first idk 48 hours) I tried to real it in to avoid being lynched, but by the last 24 when it would be clear I wouldnāt be lynched, I ramped it up again. It was a weird thing of getting the āscummiest town cred.ā
Yesterday things changed and were a hell of a lot different that I was expecting and somehow yesterday I was cemented as being lock town, a status I did not want that early but it was given to me anyway. The last 12 hours of the day went poof with the earlier-than-deadline modkill, which also left me little time to regain my scum cred, but at that point Iām not sure if thereās anything I could have done to get it back.
The overall vibe today makes it exceptionally clear that my scummiest town theater has been shattered and I donāt want to be conceded when I say this but I feel like Iām literally the least likely person in this game to ever be lynched at this point as well. Which means Iām a pretty huge candidate to be nightkilled. And I think my utility is better than the doctorās utility just from a mathematical perspective. Iām a noob here and have been acting all kinds of wonky at times. If you think of me as the village idiot and that youād rather have a doctor alive than me, then well at least part of my theater worked. But I really do think that having the doctor protect me is better for our gamesolve. Either it confirms the doctor is scum and lets you guys lynch them tomorrow if I die tonight, or it saves me, which gives town information.
If we follow this plan, we are GUARANTEED to get some form of info. If we donāt follow the plan, then itās basically relying on the doctor to get two low-odds correct picks in a row, when the mafia has a much higher shot of already knowing who the doctor is anyway.
To be honest, I canāt be certain about Doggo but I see what theyāre trying to do and I can see why some of these things might make sense.
And yes, I am absolutely losing to you here if youāre Scum. Iām literally never voting you and itās locked.
I actually think 604 & 605 make him town.
To be honest, I think itās funny that you had this whole plan to play scummy and Iāve town read you since day 1.
I think a mass claim could be in order, but I donāt really think it matters if we do or donāt claim.
Iām not wavering on my 4 town, so the odds of losing seem incredibly low.
The point wasnāt to make townies afraid of me, the point was to make scum think I had more utility to them if I was kept alive than nightkilled.
As you might have noticed, my play style is far less interesting, try to lock 50%+1 as town and then lynch everyone else.
I donāt think at any point youāve managed to lock 50% + 1 as town in this game, but sure hoping that day comes 
You refusing to vote with town doesnāt negate the read
When that vote is for town DS can you really blame me?
he was thowing
star key nade the game kinda toxic. as I tolluer player I donāt quite get why you care.
nuxl and ad was tha plan 
Andres so sure on ds it kinda town as musch as it flips maf in most games.
Yes