Mafia 451 Draft

[ErikaFurudo (Hustlevania)]

DS (4): Andresvmb, StarV, Key, Wisp
Andresvmb (3): DS, DoggoPlays, Hannahh

Not Voting (5): GTacc, ErikaFurudo, Nuxl, ActionDan, one maf should be voting ds here

[DoggoPlays (Don't Privatize Our Infrastructure)]

[DoggoPlays (Don't Privatize Our Infrastructure)]

why did you have Ellibereth’s name in this post for a few seconds?

[StarV (NotanAxehole)]

What is the basis for this assumption?

[M2H (gamethrowing prodigy)]

why did you have Ellibereth’s name in this post for a few seconds?

The votecounter “caught” me for a post since I used my actual account for the post on yeterday’s EoD deliberation. - Elli

Votecount as of post #1746

Nuxl (2): Andresvmb, StarV
Andresvmb (1): Hannahh

Not Voting (6): Wisp, DoggoPlays, ErikaFurudo, Nuxl, ActionDan, GTacc

[ErikaFurudo (Hustlevania)]

bit typo, idk how elli got into “shoupd be voting”

[ErikaFurudo (Hustlevania)]

wagonomucs + ds was a “feed oynch”. Wisp’s hop on feels overjustfied

[StarV (NotanAxehole)]

So you’re saying exactly wisp is scum with either nuxl or ActionDan +1?

[ErikaFurudo (Hustlevania)]

slim chance on starv purposefully lowering team morality

[Hannahh (Hannah Marie)]

You’re going to try to convince me that you’re more than 75% certain Andres will flip town?

Now, I know you’re any combination of:

1. Lying
2. Delusional
3. Mafia

If you’re 70%+ on anyone, you really should lock vote in and never move… Soooo I’m inclined to believe you’re lying here.

I’m not 75% certain on Andres at all, I just feel like he has more of a reason to be lynched than I have for trying to lynch Nuxl. Aka, Nuxl’s not spoken or given many reasons to be mafia besides meta at this point.

[Hannahh (Hannah Marie)]

You think I’m Scum with Nuxl? Are you kidding me?

This whole situation is bullshit. I’m being SR in this game because DS decided to tunnel me to affect the outcome of a different game, and in the stupidest way possible. The fact that anyone is trying to convincingly argue that I would act this way as Scum is mind boggling. In your world, I get Town Read by EVERY person to flip Town, but I’m so stupid that I decide to NK all of them only to stay with those that SR me and have done so consistently.

I scum read you independently of what DS was saying. You’re trying to rely on dead townies to clear yourself. I’ve done that before as mafia. “Hal strong tr’d me, LETS KILL HIM,” literally the only scum game I’ve ever successfully played, because I was able to ride on their reads. They didn’t KNOW if you were town or scum, they couldn’t possibly know for sure. The same way I feel like you’ll flip scum but realistically I’m dreadful at reads and I could be super wrong here. If I said I was super sure on this I’d be completely lying.

[Hannahh (Hannah Marie)]

If you want to push me, go ahead. But I reserve the right to ignore you the rest of the game.

Perfectly fine, if you want to ignore me instead of letting the game play out how it’s meant to, be my guest. Not going to do town any favors.

[Hannahh (Hannah Marie)]

We had 0 chance to lynch Scum. DS was Town and I was the only other viable option.

Exactly why we had a chance to lynch scum from my point of view.

[Hannahh (Hannah Marie)]

Hannahh is probably Scum, and is hedging in the situation that Nuxl flips and flips Scum. I think this is quite likely to be the case.

I’m not a new player. I’ve played mafia for years, just not forum mafia for a long time, and never on this site. If I’m scum and I’m almost in lylo I’m just going to stay under the radar like I was when everyone was townreading me. Why would I try to get someone lynched so hard if it’s not even lylo? Sure, this is wifom, but I’m not a brand new mafia player.

[Hannahh (Hannah Marie)]

…ightkilled. And I think my utility is better than the doctor’s utility just from a mathematical perspective. I’m a noob here and have been acting all kinds of wonky at times. If you think of me as the village idiot and that you’d rather have a doctor alive than me, then well at least part of my theater worked. But I really do think that having the doctor protect me is better for our gamesolve. Either it confirms the doctor is scum and lets you guys lynch them tomorrow if I die tonight, or it saves me, which gives town information.
If we follow this plan, we are GUARANTEED to get some form of info. If we don’t follow the plan, then it’s basically relying on the doctor to get two low-odds correct picks in a row, when the mafia has a much higher shot of already knowing who the doctor is anyway.

So I DEFINTIELY did scumread you, good job on that front, but yeah I do think you’re town now. Considering this game is, what, 9 people left? Nuxl who hasn’t said anything since d2, Dan in the same boat?, Me, You, StarV(Town?), Andres(Scum?), Erika, Wisp, and Waterlily?

[Hannahh (Hannah Marie)]

I’d really bet that Andres/Nuxl/someone else flip as the scum team. I doubt both Dan + Nuxl are scum, if they are scum got rlly unlucky with activity. From my point of view, I think You/Waterlily/StarV/I are definitely down. I think I’d only lynch between Nuxl/Andres/Wisp/Erika, even then I don’t think Erika is scum there. I’m not going to lie, a lot of these are gut reads, or reads with a very loose basis. But I still think Nuxl/Andres are likely to flip. I don’t THINK Star / Andres are both scum. If they are I’ll be super shocked. I’d like @ActionDan to PLEASE START LIVING NOW SINCE WE HAVE 9 PEOPLE LEFT THANKS DAN.

[Andresvmb (Andrés)]

Then you shouldn’t have a problem voting for Nuxl.

[Andresvmb (Andrés)]

You’re trying to rely on dead townies to clear yourself.

Uhm, no.

It doesn’t matter. You’re probably Scum and completely twisting my argument, and discounting every single Town player that actually thought I was Town.

[Andresvmb (Andrés)]

I’m not a new player. I’ve played mafia for years, just not forum mafia for a long time, and never on this site. If I’m scum and I’m almost in lylo I’m just going to stay under the radar like I was when everyone was townreading me. Why would I try to get someone lynched so hard if it’s not even lylo? Sure, this is wifom, but I’m not a brand new mafia player.

I’m not new either. And when I’m Scum, I don’t bus my Partners like, ever.

[DoggoPlays (Don't Privatize Our Infrastructure)]

@GTacc yo, give this dog a bone and give us some info please : )