Discrete/Limited 7p (Over)

NOTE: By the ruleset as written (for this run at least) votes submitted with the first post of each day don’t count. Don’t think that was made very clear - my bad. Thankfully it didn’t matter here. We’ll stick by this for a possible D3. Not sure if we’ll keep the rule in the future, it might just be silly.

PHASE 2.2 WILL END October 30, 2018 4:00 PM OR WHEN ALL POSTS ARE SUBMITTED.

Holy fucking shit we just won the game. Rich you are a dumbass, why would you claim cop as godfather I had a green check on you dude 9 times out of 10 i follow you on a lynch because youre confirmed town to me. I’m assuming you didnt read the rules and youre probably now kicking yourself because you just realized a godfather lynch ends the game.

VOTE: Rich Parente We win. Sheep me. Elli this setup is dope. We fucking win. Fuck yeah, get this W babyyyyy.

Ps: In case anyone doubts me - I softed in my first post.

‘Cause my seconds, minutes, hours go to the almighty dollar
And the almighty power of that ch-cha-cha-chopper
Sister, brother, son, daughter, father;
mother-fuck a copper
Got the Maserati dancin’ on the bridge, pussy poppin’
Tell the coppers: “Ha-ha-ha-ha
You can’t catch him, you can’t stop him”

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN

EVEN IF ONE OF YOU (Andres, Nanook) WOULD BE THE COP; YOU WOULD CLAIM IT IF U WERE TRUE BUT NOW, I WONT ACCEPT IT EVEN IF YOU CLAIM RED ON RICH THE COP

Rich probably did not response to my read cuz he is cop lmao

Btw if u r confus it is nanook and andres

Also I will start to think that Rich is scum waiting for an optimal night result by looking to a cop claim if he is mafia and if he does not claim the peek this phase too

Assuming there’s a counter, I think rich is probably mafia, cause why wouldn’t townCop claim yesterday when they were a lynch target from early on.

If there’s no CC (or a crappy one) in turn two I’ll reconsider (and I’m holding my vote this turn, cause it’s piss poor play to vote the only current cop claim no matter how much you think he’s scum), until then probably gonna put my vote on rich again. He’s almost certainly not The Godfather, but there’s a solid chcance he’s the goon.

DS, it isn’t so much that I’m actively scumreading you as it is POE. Like, Beeboy and MS were pretty townie FMPOV (especially Beeboy), and red never pinged me strongly ether way but he was on the rich wagon, which is weird if rich is scum (and prior to turn 1, I had him as basically lock scum). So that meant it was probably you or Andres as his partner.

It’s a pretty shitty POE, not gonna lie, and it isn’t really anything you’ve said specifically. So yeah. Guessing that doesn’t make you feel much better, lol.

Andres, you’re gonna get what you get, and that’s all there is to it. Suck it up, buttercup :wink:

Also, fwiw, Rich fake claims cop literally all the time in video mafia. So there’s that.

Okay so a large chunk of us were completely wrong about Rich it seems. Gtacc was trying really hard to say that the Team has to be Rich and I, or Rich and DS, so that’s probably out the window now. I’m going to wait and see what Rich has to say given that he’s claimed Cop, but obviously I’m not voting there until I see what Rich is thinking, and also wait for a potential CC, if any at all. I don’t expect it, but you never know. But yeah, clearly I have the game wrong (yay me!), and after Rich comes out with his result, I will be able to formulate some sort of strategy. Hopefully the person he investigated is still around.

DS is red peeked. I’m a god. Had a 20% chance to check the exact mafia goon.

Town should be aware we can just instantly lose the game if 1 town votes on another town in this gamestate. This is why I think Redflavor should have the hammer in final 3. If the exact mafia team is DS and Redflavor, and they both just missed the hammer, I get to flame bad town players who tried to gamethrow by voting before cop claims in postgame. That’s almost as good as a win : )

If DS claims Cop here, look how I softed he was the mafia goon in my previous post. Also think about how it would make sense for the mafia goon to fight a CC battle on this day. If for some reason the godfather counterclaims me, lol we win.

That said:

VOTE: DS

Phase 2.2 Votes:

Rich Parente (1): DS
DS (1): Rich Parente

Didn’t Vote (3): GTacc, Nanook, Andresmvb

PHASE 2.3 WILL END October 31, 2018 4:00 PM OR WHEN ALL POSTS ARE SUBMITTED.

Well, Rich apparently saw my soft and that’s why he chose to come out against me. The DS is red thing is clever, It’s a solid play, and about the only play he really had, but he chose the wrong person to do it on. If you look at my first post of the first phase of this day my first quote the first line was a vote for Rich, which was me softing that I checked Rich, though I really never expected him to claim cop after I got the green check on him. Like as godfather that’s just extremely dumb, but I don’t see a world in which a town!rich does that because it’s just abhorrently game throwing to claim cop when you’re not cop in this setup.

Rich, you may be a god but I am the goat, and you are really dumb for counterclaiming as godfather. I’m trying to think why you would do that, but you obviously must have thought that your partner would not have claimed? So I’m guessing it’s probably Andres from that alone because Clem and Gtacc 100% claim outright in this situation if they are goon and the way Gtacc played the “ill wait for a cop claim” thing definitely makes me sure they aren’t goon. Not that it matters who it is at this point because we lynch you and we win, but just for my own ego I want to be able to say that I figured it out.

Honestly tho, If you hadn’t of claimed cop I would’ve been thoroughly confused this round, so thanks for making it easy for me.

VOTE: Rich Parente

VOTE: DS

DS is good as scum enough to put a backdoor in his first post, also none of scum!Andres and scum!nanook votes Rich there if Rich was a GF (since my vote was like almost confirmed Rich and that would only need 1 vote to lynch and it is very very suboptimal)

Rich, I pretty liked your soft in 2.1, I would doubt you but nope, a good one that even DS did not see it

I also dont see any reason for DS to keep his result from us in 2.1, since if he is 1 shot cop, it only gives chance to scum to counterclaim (since a innocent is always helpful for town and cop does not have to live forever).

Also DS’s 2.1 post does not really seem like he was townreading Rich, an inno report is 2/3 town but idk

Also Im pretty sure that DS dont get this happy when he wins, like yesterday I said him “If you told me that you are playing for the win, I would vote you” and he was like “nah, its ok” and we 're talking about 37.5 dollars here, at least it is pretty much for me.
He is just trying to look like he found GF

Why would they claim tho? So that they can get nightkilled with no result

THIS IS THE PART WHERE I WANNA TALK ABOUT SOMETHING THAT LOOK OPTIMAL TO ME

I think claiming cop at 1.5 makes sense, like if you are gonna get lynched or killed, your claim does not matter anyways and it just makes you more confirmed as a cop and gives scum less chances to claim cop

BACK TO THE GAME

also if DS was really scumreading metal, how did he know metal would die and why would he check rich? Like i can understand that just in case, but it still does not seem to what a town would do to me

Also it seems like nanook/DS

VOTE: DS

Yeah, ignore what I said, Rich is just the cop 9 times out of 10 here. No reason for copDS with a green check on the most suspected living player not to out in turn one today. Just doesn’t make sense. So it’s either bad play or he’s scum, and I don’t think DS is a bad player, so he must be scum.

Second scum is probably gtacc at first read, cause I truly don’t understand how he goes from “Rich is cop” to “it’s Nanook and Andres.” Like, that doesn’t make a lick of sense. I could still see it being Andres, but yeah, thinking it’s probably just DS and Gtacc scumteam. Probably need to reread and see who DS interacted with though.

Hand to God DS, if you’re the actual cop here and didn’t claim it in the first turn, you should have to change your avatar to a still image. Cause that’s just silly for a one-shot cop not to claim cop immediately.

So it doesn’t take a genius to figure out that the vote needs to consolidate between DS and Rich. I originally thought they would be in the same Team - that’s impossible now. I haven’t had time to re-read the game yet, but I will tonight and make my intention obvious as to who I intend to vote for between the two (anybody voting in this post might be the Scum partner purely because it would be very early without seeing who is doing what). I thought Rich was more likely to be the Scum, but DS is claiming that Rich is the Godfather? That seems like an unnecessary risk unless Rich figured out that his Scum partner was not going to fake claim here. So that’s interesting. DS and Rich are obviously going to cross-vote, so maybe give us your thoughts on who you think is aligned with who and why?

@GTacc, Nanook and I huh? You keep throwing people under the bus and clearly wrong every time.

@Nanook, let me know what your thoughts are on all this. I’m thinking we’re probably aligned and I trust your judgment here.

I’ll be using female pronouns when referring DS for the rest of the game because she tries to mess with the warrior, but she does it in a way that makes it so she doesn’t have to fake gamesolving anymore by claiming the game is solved from her perspective instead of really going head to head.

This might help you guys evaluate who’s more likely to kill Beeboy in the night, me or her. I’m obviously bias because I know she is scum.

DS claiming a green on me means from her fake perspective, I’m the godfather, and the game is solved. Gonna point out again this is lazy mafia play because it makes it so she doesn’t have to fake evaluation on the game anymore. It sucks it stops us from getting more information out of her future posts.

Beeboy was scumreading Andres. This is interesting to look at going into final 3. It’s really light evidence for Andres being scum.

The reason it’s light is because he was starting to scumread Clem too.

Andres saying this and voting me over her right away could be him going for the win, while also making himself look good in final 3 if his partner dies.

It’s almost a complete 180° from the read he gave on me yesterday. This could be because I’m an easy push today because I led a mislynch yesterday.

On the other hand, DS has been hard townreading Clem while DS is like Clem’s third lynch. Not making friends here, if you’re town you can’t vote me.

Leading a lynch is my cop play on forum, because I either hit a mafia, or I kill a town from my POE while mafia thinks they can push me for it, so I won’t die.

So much more to say only 3000 characters fuck me sideways

VOTE: DS

Phase 2.3 Votes:

DS (3): GTacc, Nanook, Rich Parente
Rich Parente (1): DS

Didn’t Vote (1): Andresmvb


DS has been executed. He was a Mafia Goon.
Rich Parente has been killed. He was a 1-Shot Cop.

We are in Final 3.

PHASE 3.1 WILL END November 1, 2018 4:00 PM OR WHEN ALL POSTS ARE SUBMITTED.

Im stupid for not getting my keys

Anyways, I reread the game and saw some interactions that points to Nanook is the partner on DS, I wonder who you guys are are suspicious of so Ill slank this phase but…
I think gf always wants to distance themselves with the fake cop so they wanna vote DS immediately, Andres not voting seems cool because we needed more info for f3, like I was gonna edit to unvote but realized it was too late.
Ill point out most things that points outs to anders not being team with ds and nanook being team with ds at next phase, so bye for now

Wow Andres looks bad here. OK. Gonna look past that though, and see if voting helps.

Phase 1.4, with DS voting on Gtacc, makes Gtacc pretty unlikely to be godfather there I’d think. So yeah, I think we just kill Andres and hope for the best, cause I dunno that I’ll be able to read them tonally with the limited time I’m expending on this game.

I lied, I haven’t had enough time to look at previous posts.

For now, gut is telling me it’s probably Gtacc, but clearly the voting last round is not going to help me as someone clearly bussed their partner. And to think I wanted to play it cautious.

Anyway, that’s my lean. I’ll provide a better rationale and potentially a vote by post 3/4, but I did want to sit down and think about it. I’ve screwed up one of these situations before where I voted the wrong way and didn’t want to do it again.

Phase 3.1 Votes:

Didn’t Vote (3): GTacc, Nanook, Andresmvb

PHASE 3.2 WILL END November 2, 2018 4:00 PM OR WHEN ALL POSTS ARE SUBMITTED.

Shading Andres in phase 1, also DS literally said shady things about every people in that post… Except Nanook.

Again liking DS’s post (even tho not for reads), and fencesitty commenting on everyone else.

Rich also made a post like that, but Nanook did not comment very good on it. Scum double standarts

This is a good response to DS, and it does not seem like SvS

This is DS’s respons to Andres, does not seem SvS again

Protecting the GF, like this does not make sense when Nanook is town and Andres is scum because DS was a scum

Their top town is Nanook which DS never explained i think, like he hasn’t talked about Nanook but also not Andres too…DS loves powerwolfing so I would definitely expect him to put his scumfriend on top.

I am nearly out of characters, Check post 49 of DS, he says something to Nanook but he says “Everyone does this” so its not attackign to nanook but check Andres part, it is more personal and not look like SvS.

Also nanook tested waters for believing ds claim

VOTE: Andres

Pretty sure it’s Andres here just based on their opening to the day. Gtacc is wrong, but he’s going after one person as opposed to keeping his option open. Whereas Andres is playing it more how I’d expect scum to, by keeping their options open and seeing where the wind blows.

So yeah, pretty much just gonna bet on it being Andres here.

Let’s see if DS left any clues as to where to go with this vote, and I’ll make some comments here and there about what I see from the both of you.

So one of the first things that DS did in this game (in #14) is attack Gtacc, saying that Gtacc had mostly avoided giving real content by posting about meta in his first post. He did the same with Beeboy, saying he wasn’t genuine, and placing a vote there. I was also Scum read (but only slightly) and Nanook was given a null reading.

Gtacc followed in also criticizing Beeboy, but frankly so did everyone - Beeboy’s entrance was weak and unconvincing. Gtacc also made a comment about how they prefer to distance as Scum - that would be unlike what I’ve seen you do this game, which is a bit more all over the place. Also, I did not pick this up the first time I read this post, but you were being cautious about giving the good Scum players Town reads - which is a positive point for you. Rich also had an early read of you as Town, for what it’s worth, but you didn’t return the favor in #24.

Nanook Scum read {Gtacc, Me, and MS} early in the game. Mostly MS though. As a side note, there was never much in the form of content from Nanook, which makes it hard to really make a convincing case either way. Given the format, I can understand why, but it leaves a lot of ambiguity.

DS tunneled Beeboy for a bit there, saying nothing about other players in #23.

Gtacc, you agreed with the slight Town lean on DS that Rich gave, and you Scum read Nanook based on content. I’ve already expressed my opinion on this, but I can see where you’re coming from.

I’ve been going in circles this game. From reading my #27 again, it’s mildly embarrassing.

@Gtacc, Rich came out swinging at you in #28, saying you had slipped as Scum. But he said the same thing about @Nanook, placing him even further down the list. Does that say anything to you?

#32 is what really should define this game. DS voted for Gtacc in that post, which Nanook already alluded to. Would a Mafia Goon vote the Godfather in this game? It’s an interesting gambit. This is the perfect distancing strategy, and it was done when most people were leaning quite negatively on MS. Would I do it? No, I don’t think I would, unless the circumstances were just right. The risk/reward just isn’t there for me, unless you have some near certainty that it won’t cost you the game. @Nanook, why are you so sure DS wouldn’t do it? If DS is as good a Scum as people seem to imply, you don’t think they could pull this off? Like I said, I wouldn’t do it, but maybe DS would.

As a side note, MS calling me a huge suck for Town reading Rich and Beeboy is definitely funny.

Day 2 circled mostly around DS/Rich, so I’ll get back to it later but there’s only valuable content in the first post I think. DS was skeptical of me very early there actually, saying that I was being hedgy. Needless to say I disagree, since you know, if I hadn’t voted among them two (Rich/MS) they both would have been lynched and we would have lost the game right there (hindsight is 20/20, but surely you have to make a choice there). DS also Town read Nanook in that post - and this also gives me pause because if you’re going for the win and you’re the Mafia Goon, it makes sense to give the Godfather a Town read there.

I’ll keep going with some more thoughts next post, as I clearly ran out of space. I can’t say that I’m set on where I want to go with this yet. Will keep reading.