okay so i dont know how to process all that tbh
Yeah then… my bad lol
But I think maybe anyone could bus their afk partner
why havent you been posting bruh.
you shouldve EXPOSED andres before
I can go through the effort of listing every game I’ve been Scum and you could look through them and then confirm what I’m saying, or you could trust that I’m not stupid enough as either alignment to make a bald faced lie about something you can easily research and move on.
These are my lists btw. I’m just literally putting everything out there and I’m going to put a vote down and hope for the best.
From Scum To Town [N1]
ActionDan
StarV
DS
Nuxl
GTacc
M2H
Chesskid3
[N2]
M2H
DS
GTacc
ActionDan
Nuxl
Yeah, my top TR’s have been NK’ed. I don’t know what that says about me.
I’m gonna die
You didn’t even vote your red checked partner
Who tf is scummmm
I need to read rest but first tea
@DS I do kind of want to understand you better. Why exactly do you take the fact that you get pushed so often so hard. Isn’t being suspected just a trade off of being an elite player? Like I get the soft treatment because I only bamboozle people once in a blue moon but at the same time you’re a player that undoubtedly one of the top players on the internet and you say that nothing is really ai for you because there’s nothing you’d say or do as one alignment that you wouldn’t do as the other. Isn’t it just the correct move to throw you in a POE and solve lesser players.
Like I understand that being consistently misread makes me feel misunderstood and it hurts but at its core this is a social manipulation game.
When is it acceptable to push you? In what way is it acceptable? Is it only acceptable to push you when you are actually scum. So is basically what you expect from us is 100% accuracy on your slot as a standard, or do you want us to play sub-optimally and let you slip through the cracks consistently.
I tr you here for the moment, just sate my curiosity I suppose.
i rly don’t get how there weren’t enough ppl tring me earlier today for your liking but now there are.
what actual posts did I make that changed your mind, or was it just a paranoia spiral that you feel that you’re out of now?
There’s a difference between throwing TR’s out there to get a reaction, or that are just early gut (which btw might be accurate more often than not), and these TR’s with the game almost on the line. Locking people as Town here is risky, particularly as Scum, so they’re either (i) genuine or (ii) informed.
And I have some faith in the 451 collective.
You know, if DS does turn out to be Town, it’ll be the… 10th? game in a row I’ve called DS’ alignment correctly.
Meh it’s probably just Dan and I’m over complicating this.
But how could he have been so calm under pressure? UGH
n1
chesskid3
DS.
StarV
ActionDan
Nuxl
GTacc
Andresvmd
M2H
n2
DS.
GTacc
ActionDan
Andresvmd
Nuxl
M2HI have no issue being pushed if its for valid reasons. A majority of the time its just people throwing me in the POE because I am good at scum. I understand that is a high probability solve for others because its like well “He’s the best scum player in the world so lets just vote him out”
i mean can you not understand why that is frustrating for me? To play every single game on the back end of fuck they are going to lynch me just for existing? I feel like im decent at town telling. probably above average at it if im being honest with myself and you all are being honest with yourselves also. Most games I can distinguish myself as “not scum” but still get thrown in the poe anyway because my scum range is so high.
I dont want to quote other games but like Dusk in your game kinda exemplified my frustration when he said that even HE gets frustrated with how I just get POE’d every game and hes not even me lol
Let me check.
I do understand it. Playing mafia is therapeutic for me primarily because I feel like other people can identify what my real intentions are. Getting to come on here and have people unanimously understand when I have good intentions, and, at a core level, understand how I tick, feels good. In the same way, I worry about whether I could continue to enjoy playing if I ever became as good a scum player as you are, and had to endure being the subject of paranoia for no reason. That would basically take the thing that I think I enjoy most about mafia out of it. Really it could just be that I like detective stuff.
At the same time, however, when I play mafia I’m not always thinking about protecting people’s feelings–I’m trying to be on my detective shit.
I really don’t know how to fix the problem. If you have better play elsewhere then gl dude, but my suspicion is that as you demonstrate your ability you will just get more and more suspicion thrown at you.
I couldn’t find a game where my Partner flaked.
HOWEVER. I did find a game where I bussed. It’s way too late and I had avoided the thread because DS was getting killed, but in the “A Mostly Normal Game - Deep South Mafia”, DS fake claimed in #218 (so very early), and I ended up voting for DS while saying that “it was fairly obvious” in #470 because he was guaranteed to be lynched. Which is well, maybe another example of me being completely unable to bus a Partner early, but counts as a vote against my Partner.
We lost that game quickly since me actively avoiding the thread made my position impossible to maintain (just see Elli’s comment in #824).