Vengeful Tournament G6

Sure.

If your opponent is playing like that you should win though!

Many people Iā€™ve played cash games with are okay with losing certain amounts of money, if you take some line assuming theyā€™re not okay with losing it (and I have before!) and it doesnā€™t work out, itā€™s a misread on the part of the player.

You even said thatā€™s what you did. You maximized points but in doing so made it impossible to win

I made it impossible for myself to win. Had your Team played better and won more games, my choices donā€™t matter to you. This isnā€™t hard.

A cash game isnā€™t a tournament

I mean uh

Many (if not most?) people play for ā€œhighest realistic positionā€ rather than take moonshots for first yeah? Likeā€¦people like star and chess that take the ā€œfirst or I donā€™t careā€ approach arenā€™t necessarily the norm in a lot of tournaments ime

Forgive me for assuming you wanted to win. My bad

Most people donā€™t aim for first when playing poker tournaments.

Itā€™s drawing from your chess analogy in that itā€™s a playerā€™s responsibility to adjust for other peopleā€™s motivations.

Sure in a 500 person tournament yes, in a 6 person tournament thereā€™s no point in not gunning for first

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No Elli, itā€™s MY fault they came in last. And that StarV/Urist won.

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A lot of people see it differently :woman_shrugging:

Yeah and I didnā€™t realize he was playing a different game until it didnā€™t matter anymore

This is a silly argument, in a tournament setting in a lot of games itā€™s a core skill to read your opponentā€™s motivation/what they want out of it. Itā€™s not someoneā€™s fault that they didnā€™t conform to whatever one.

Like Iā€™m not arguing one side or the other (obviously I usually take the go for the win approach!), but likeā€¦pretending one side doesnā€™t exist just seems silly to me tbh

Iā€™m only talking about the one specific game I was in

I get being salty that you guys misread andres but his mindset wasnā€™t wrong by any means.

And I would personally not exclusively aim for first if I played mafia tournaments tbh. See my approach during LC.

And I never said Andres chose not to win to spite chess/myself. But him choosing not to try to win the tournament when he still could squeak out a win was a major tipping point for the whole tournament

I agree it was the large tipping point and that I would have failed to make the correct read there ( I would have considered the star/urist slot confirmed town). But I actually think the information was there to be read (both within the game play itself and nanook flipping goon).

Like the spirit of competition says you should try to win if itā€™s still possible for you to do so