Ranked Vengeful (Developing a rating system based on per game player ranking) Discussion

Ellibeteth, do you plan to make a ranking system for Neutrals, or no?

no plans at present.

I thought we weren’t looking for a subjective scoring system tho

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Removing portion about how 1 and 2 always have rating go up and 3 and 4 always go down since that will no longer be true in general.

The final value will always be between 0 and 50. Should we put the dull decimal in the profile or round or multiple by 100 to look more “traditional”.

“Traditional” probably has broadest appeal

There’s also these guys which generate more traditional feeling numbers, but I just can’t…

Another change:

Hammers are active after everyone has voted at least once.

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Philosophical question that’s exclusive to vengeful:

Should hitting a shot (50/50) be equally valued to voting mafia (50/50) AND getting mafia lynched.

I’m actually leaning towards yes for simplicity. Vengeful is actually pretty shitty to generalize because of the shot (general version for how this works will be posted with Marked for Death).

…wat?

Who will be the Jim West of ranked @Ellibereth

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okay quick change to make life easier for everyone/because vengeful is a hard setup to generalize because of the shot…

By virtue of everything in vengeful being a 50/50 (one exception we treat below):

Right Twice > Right Once > Right Once, Wrong Once > Wrong Once > Wrong Twice

Ties broken in the sections by amount of town votes cast on you through the game.

EXCEPTION:

Goon lynched has the confirmed town and the non-confirmed town’s rightness d2 being scored symmetrically (i.e. if the confirmed town vote correctly they’re both right, if the confirmed town votes incorrectly they’re both wrong). The shot player has a chance between when he’s shot and when d2 shots to privately guess the remaining scum, correct guess = right.

Figured out something more generalization for shotless setups (see marked for death topic shortly) but I think this will do? Key change here is getting mafia lynched and shooting mafia are weighted the same. @chesskid3 I don’t think this scheme has any issues yeah?

Is there going to be any change to the queue system to prevent the “only sign up for games with players rated higher than myself” exploit?

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“only sign up for games with players who I want to grief” exploit

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Wel there isn’t a clear answer since we don’t have at least 10 signed up at all times.

I thought I was going to be in game 5 and I’m sad now

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