ActionDan ISO
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ActionDan enters the thread with a read, so this looks good. And I assume he knows Elli well enough to base this on meta and tone.
Later he questions Elli’s reasoning/logic on CM claiming.
He doesn’t just question once but multiple times to get things cleared up. So on the surface, he does want to figure it out. Though of course, scum would also be interested in figuring out the optimum play, so maybe this questioning is NAI.
I’m surprised that ActionDan hasn’t interacted more with others. I was under the impression that he’s one of the more skilled players. I’m hoping to see more “action” from him soon. 
So for now, I think I need to leave him at Null.
Conclusion: Null
Me and the creator of the setup both did them independently and got the same results. You’re free to do so independently to verify.
Anyway I think the game is basically over so I’m going to just accelerate it since the limiting factor is just time at this point.
Claiming not combat medic.
@tn5421 don’t call things retarded please ty.
The setup is fine and we can chat about it later, several people have worked on it for a long period of time and it’s been tested well over a hundred times.
the scummiest thing I did this game was not lying about the numbers given this particular set of people.
Game was basically over if I did kekerino.
4 town is auto btw so can CM just claim already ty. Several people have already shifted the probabilities by explicitly or implicitly claiming not CM which takes away the 3% edge.
this setup is like
lets take things nobody likes about mountainous
lets take things nobody likes about diffusion of power
no flips. bah
VOTE: Ellibereth
Elli how can the setup be fine and then you think you have auto?
4 town = auto isn’t a setup issue.
actually there are interesting arguments that it might be but that falls into the camp of philosophical issues with mafia as a well designed game etc.etc.
Why wpuld you want CM to claim though you get two confirms if they don’t and if we don’t yEet scum im not following the logic
it’s 3% edge for them to not claim assuming everything else is random. I’ve already ruined that by claiming not CM and jebaiting several people into implicitly not claiming CM so it’s become negative probability to not claim.
4 confirms d1 is auto, we’re winning d1 it doesn’t matter. Whether the CM choose to self save or shoot within the pool doesn’t particularly matter either once you’re at 4.
anyway I’m not going to answer any more questions. There are some people here who should be making my life easier. Please do so.
I still disagree. I understand that a 4 town is auto but its flipless. CM claiming makes you lose the chance of having two confirmed D2.
CM claims get shot at night and either vengeful shoots giving you no confirmed tomorrow or saves themselves giving you 1 confirmed. I dont see the net positive
don’t need to keep talking about it but that’s where I stand atm
I have 0 reads at the moment over than whypser town but think that’s for not great reasons
Nah the more I think about it the more I realise best result for scum is to kill the CM first night
VOTE: Ellibereth
Townlean on tn5421 because my logic is just their logic