11p White Flag (1, 6)

[Nanook (Clem)]

Also yeah how could you forget tn!

[tn5421 (Neopolitan)]

Telling you “I’m never partners with chess” and “you should be TRing me” is only gonna go so far. My play speaks for itself in my opinion.

It really doesn’t, considering that it mostly consists of you performing semen analysis with chesskid.

[M2H (gamethrowing prodigy)]

tn is prob with gtacc and andres in tier 3

[Nanook (Clem)]

I feel like you’re better this tbh, and should be TRing me, especially after you successfully TR me last game.

Is the scumread just cause I’m melding with chess? Like, if I were doing this with, I dunno, M2 or some shit, would you still be scumreading me?

[tn5421 (Neopolitan)]

Honestly? Yes.

[tn5421 (Neopolitan)]

It’s how you’re doing it that pings me as scummy.

[Nanook (Clem)]

I mean, the masons thing is a running joke I can see being obnoxious, but this isn’t the first time I’ve pinged out chess as town fast or vise versa.

[Engravings]

That’s better than what you’re doing now. I’m not completely egotistical. I’m not going to act like I’m the towniest player in the game. It certainly makes much more sense than considering us to be partners, which is either complete tinfoil or just noncommital.

I know I don’t have a better argument here, but your back and forth with him pinged me as disingenuous.

Why? I’ve been going hard at him and trying to kill him today. How is that the play when my vote on Star was working out and the day was set to end without much information aside from slanking Star getting lynched? Do you think I’d want to generate a shit ton of tells with my partner and put him under the heat when some random guy is dying?

Sure. Post 511. I would add it to this one but I’m not too good with this forum software, which is new to me.

You put a pound symbol in front of the post number to link a post automatically, like so: #511

Further, the unstated reasoning for lynching StarV is more sound than the reasoning that has already been mentioned. StarV is a player that will hipfire or hammer based on gut alone, which is dangerous to take into mylo/lylo, and more reasonable town members would prefer he not be alive at that point.

I don’t see how this substantiates your argument that the Engravings/Cavin argument wasn’t scum theatre, though. Perhaps you simply misunderstood what I was asking.

I can’t give you purely objective rationalization because I’m one of those players, but you can look at the response above and ask yourself if it makes sense FMPOV.

I was under the impression that you were considering Chesskid/Nanook’s interactions all game to be theatre. That’s what I’m trying to refute.

Nanook’s vote on StarV isn’t just a policy lynch… or isn’t even a policy lynch at all. He hasn’t even mentioned it. His vote on Star is inextricably linked to his interactions with Chess which I consider to be genuine, whether it be TvT or TvS. Do you have an argument to disagree with that at all? You seem to think their team is viable. That’s what I’m asking you.

I can only respond, again, with post 511. There are way too many telling signs that go against that theory if you put yourself in their shoes.

I don’t, can’t, agree with this viewpoint. Scum will do what it takes to get townread, one way or another.

I have no counterargument.

I don’t understand how you find that statement scum motivated. I’m really just trying to wrangle you in.

I am a known worrier, so telling me not to worry just pisses me off. It’s not so much that this particular statement causes me to scumread you, it’s more that it makes me angry with you.

I’m not vacuously telling you not to worry. At this point I’m trying to give you logical reasons to be done with this so you can reevaluate your choices, because FMPOV I see you as a townie voting wrong.

I don’t know what to say to that. I prefer to try and figure out the mystery. Defending myself every time someone sneezes at me is boring at best and unproductive at worst.

I feel like you’re overcompensating in the other direction here. “If I refuse to defend myself, then obviously I’m in the right” doesn’t actually work.

I wasn’t going to place a value judgment on it one way or the other, that’s just how I like to play. You’re the one who’s stating that it’s a scumtell to not defend myself. I obviously disagree. “Overcompensating” is another very uncharitable interpretation.

Nothing I’ve asked you has been intended as rhetorical, ESPECIALLY early game when I repeatedly asked you to substantiate your reads. You’re foisting intent upon me instead of taking 30 seconds to answer questions. Again, I’m not villifying you for it, but you’re jumping to use me not responding to your scumread on me instantly as cannon fodder to continue the attack. Don’t you see how I can find that frustrating?

Please explain how I’m supposed to interpret the following as questions:

By responding. I’m not pissed off that you didn’t respond, I’m pissed off that when I selectively choose to respond to things you see it as scummy when you do the same thing.

[Engravings]

Also note the difference in tone and treatment of the theory when discussing it with you vs. directly with tn

I feel like I’m acting the same. I’m treating it rather coldly. I prefer rational takes.

[Cavin]

Bussing doesn’t make sense in this setup TN.

[tn5421 (Neopolitan)]

yo, im holstering here and taking a break. I may need to be reminded to respond to the wall tomorrow. l8r

[Engravings]

Me too because I have work tomorrow.

[Cavin]

Why? I’ve been going hard at him and trying to kill him today. How is that the play when my vote on Star was working out and the day was set to end without much information aside from slanking Star getting lynched? Do you think I’d want to generate a shit ton of tells with my partner and put him under the heat when some random guy is dying?

Hey, do you still think Star is a good vote?

[Cavin]

Tn I hate your walls because I can’t highlight and copy sections from my phone.

Hey, @Nanook if you highlight the text a button to quote pops up near the text. Just hit that.

[Nanook (Clem)]

Yeah I’m aware how it works, tn formats his walls in a way that makes it not highlight on my phone.

[Engravings]

Why? I’ve been going hard at him and trying to kill him today. How is that the play when my vote on Star was working out and the day was set to end without much information aside from slanking Star getting lynched? Do you think I’d want to generate a shit ton of tells with my partner and put him under the heat when some random guy is dying?

Hey, do you still think Star is a good vote?

I only voted him to try and pressure him, he’s been null to me. I don’t think he’s a terrible vote but greener pastures etc.

At best I’m completely misguided, Star flips scum, and I clear you.

[Cavin]

Yeah I’m aware how it works, tn formats his walls in a way that makes it not highlight on my phone.

This makes no sense to me because I did it on my phone but okay

[Cavin]

Why? I’ve been going hard at him and trying to kill him today. How is that the play when my vote on Star was working out and the day was set to end without much information aside from slanking Star getting lynched? Do you think I’d want to generate a shit ton of tells with my partner and put him under the heat when some random guy is dying?

Hey, do you still think Star is a good vote?

I only voted him to try and pressure him, he’s been null to me. I don’t think he’s a terrible vote but greener pastures etc.

At best I’m completely misguided, Star flips scum, and I clear you.

Well I mean you’ve basically said that we aren’t ever partnered so you either think he’s a good lynch or you think I am a good lynch lol

[Cavin]

So not thinking he’s a terrible vote doesn’t really parse there

[Cavin]

Go to sleep though we can pick this up another time I’m not gonna press this line right now