At any rate, I doubt this conversation is going to get anywhere productive at this point 
I have given up on lynching you today and donāt see the upside. Instead, Iām playing the long game - if either you or Nanook is Scum, and we lose this game because of it, then I get to point to this game as reference to what lengths youāre willing to go to in order to win a game.
Offering up an alternative is not the same thing as casing myself up in a worldview.
Iāve done AtE shit like this as wolf. Donāt town read me for that. My best wolf game of all time I kept accusing people on MS of bullying me (when I was newer) to get town read for indignance lmao. Town read me for things I posted in my wall at the SOD, or just for tone, or because as wolf I care a lot less. My last wolf game on site was Matroshka, where I didnāt even post - I was legit very busy, like I was day 1 here, but the difference is as town I care enough to hide in the bathroom and use my phone at work and shit like that because Iām actually interested in the solve. Shrug. Self meta.
But thatās here nor there. You need to sort me as town, or we probably need to lynch me today. I will get lynched at LyLo with how this thread is going and that will make me WAY madder than dying today. I am not saying you need to lock me in as town forever and ever, but you yourself need to think Iām town, not āNanook said it so you can live todayā.
Like I can throw an idea out there, and you donāt have to assume itās the only alternative Iāve ever considered. This is whatās bothering me - if you think that #913 is literally the only universe I believe possible, then you really should be disappointed.
I am not going to help lynch you today. I thought I had made it obvious already. And you know why? Because I TR Nanook and I am in no mood to get into this long debate with him about you. Thatās literally it. Yeah, I care a lot more about games that Iām Town. But this is Ranked - I would try my best regardless.
But yeah, Iām going to sheep that read until the end of the game, if Iām around. And if it ends up hurting me, then longer term that helps me far more.
Okay, golden. So since you are treating me as town, do you want to engage with me like so? Or would you rather not.
I think kill is scum trying ro go ez path for win
Also, youāre fundamentally misunderstanding where Iām coming from. There are certain players I know I can read fairly well. And thereās those that I know I canāt, and others can read better. You, I canāt read well. Thatās obvious to me. Youāre one of those players I read based on results - and thereās like 2 or 3 such players on my list. Others, I focus more on tone/style, content, flow of the game, and my own instincts. They donāt always work. But I would argue Iāve done okay. My SR of you was primarily based on your bad pushes D1. Or at least what seemed like bad ones. One of which was on now flipped Town. And one I had spent a lot of time trying to sort out, mind you. If Iām reading your tone, your frustration, and your clear attempts to sort the game, then yes I TR a lot of that. But youāre just one of those players that I tend to discount that for results. Thats the highest compliment I can give you. And Iām a bit annoyed that I canāt actually do that this game. But hey, it makes the game interesting.
I have some minor stuff Iāll explain post game, remind me. But yea, thatās all fair. If it makes you less annoyed at the situation, this day has got you to a lock town read from me, so it wasnāt all useless. And this AtE stuff is me trying my wincon to the hardest, keep that in mind. Iām sorry if my play irritates/ted you this game.
So gun to your head past me and Nanook, whoās your top town or two?
I would be shocked if M2H flipped Scum. I had some certainty that Dan was Town before. But itās fading a bit.
M2H and half Dan were the exact 2 names I was gonna give, so thatās really good haha
I also thought Dusk was Town. But I can see a universe where heās not. He tunneled me hard in a game we played, where I tried to backtrack last minute and it might have ended in a loss. This is not too different from that.
GTacc has played like Scum. The caveat being that I canāt really read GTacc for shit. Itās the player I know based on prior games I am least likely to read right.
And I think strictly one of StarV/Tn is Scum, but not both, and maybe neither haha. Not that helpful, but thatās my view.
Well Iām like
Nanook / Andres
M2H
Dan
KTS
StarV / tn
GTacc
Dusk
I would put GTacc at bottom, the split right above, and Dusk slightly above. But fundamentally weāre not all that different. Adjusting for my prior view of you of course.
How has StarV developed over the months Iāve been gone? Heās posted some genuine sounding things today.
StarV is good at sorting people out. Thatās my view. Yeah, heās still lazy. And is also in it for the fun of it and perhaps winning is not the highest priority. But I have seen him do an excellent job at sorting games out. So if heās trying to lynch between Tn/DS at EOD, and theyāre both Town, then I would argue thatās pretty damning.