Triple Tickle Game Thread (Day 4)

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

@Luftwaffle

Alright, so I’m confirmed town (I didn’t get any roleblock feedback, but I assume that is normal? GG would never change her mind without telling us, would she?).

I realized a mistake in my reasoning yesterday (some people had expressed it before me, so it applies to them too): YBW could have been the last killer on the list, which would mean he isn’t excluded from having been framed by a killer while being a killer .

Honestly, I don’t know what to make of this. Makes one claim, then makes another consideration, but then doesn’t put two and two together to not even realize the consideration they made thereafter partially counters their earlier claim.

In the same post.

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

@Andresvmb

Feel free to do whatever of course, but I just wanted to point that you haven’t voted actually at all as far as I can tell.

Also I wanted to comment yesterday that I’ve really noticed that with Luft.

I’m not sure if I can tell that’s super AI either way because from what I’ve seen or remember his voting flys a lot more often as either alignment and earlier too.

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

But I think Luft is just town.

I’ll die on the YBW + Spak as last killers decision.

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

On second reconsideration, I think my read on YBW was preety bad in terms of how it compares to how I usually make reads.

I’ve come to notice that when I look for “scum mindsets” and “town mindsets”, that’s two different things and can have different implications in how I read people, and I need to reflect on that further post-game.

Also its not a good-look how more than 3/4’ths of YBW’s posting is on January 12th and 13th.

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

I think I needlessly valued his fluffing and didn’t really look for much solving, hence a critical error in evaluating YBW.

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

@Spak

Also, I still think that Luft v. Martin reads as TvT and Andres has honestly been carrying this game from a scumhunting perspective. YBW is the odd one out, and he’d make a lot of sense as our last killer.

I wonder if Spak really thought Erika was a killer

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

Because of the flip, in the above post, he has to conclude himself as a killer xD

Wait. But that would mean he didn’t know that the 2nd killer no-killed, meaning that he must be the “last” killer on the list.

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

I think we have an interesting opportunity here.

If YBW is 2nd killer, then Spak is also killer.

If YBW is last killer, then Luft may be 2nd killer instead, and we’ll count that as “Martin doesn’t know how to read Luft”

If YBW is town though…well we might lose given how it’ll be a 1v1 between the killers.

Edit (Since other people have done editing as well):

@MartinGG99

advisor > instigator > enforcer

Presuming Golden followed this one then that must mean, according to what I think right now, that YBW is instigator and Spak is Enforcer.

So, VOTE: YouButScum

Edit 2: Grammatical error correction.

[YoubutWorse]

sorry I like completely forgot about this game since I thought we had it locked with erika as killer
and then they didn’t flip killer

Also the only other FM I was in finished so I should be able to pay more attention to this

@Luftwaffle

Alright, so I’m confirmed town

I do believe you are town, but you technically aren’t confirmed

[Spak]

Hey all, just checking in real quick from work. Haven’t read up, but whatever you do, DO NOT put anyone at L-1. We’re in MyLo here unless Killer hits Killer tonight, and I don’t want any “accidental” hammers. YBW seems autolock for killer for this game to make any sense imo (I’d be willing to gamble my life on it), and I’d have to reread Martin/Luft to find the last one (unless Andres is killer, in which case gg lol). I was pretty sure they were TvT, but I’m gonna try to ISO every slot left before EoD. I should be on sometime after 7:00 PM, but have to get back to working rn.

[Luftwaffle]

@MartinGG99

Honestly, I don’t know what to make of this. Makes one claim, then makes another consideration, but then doesn’t put two and two together to not even realize the consideration they made thereafter partially counters their earlier claim.

In the same post.

I shouldn’t post when sleep-deprived. Ignore my first paragraph lol.

@MartinGG99

Also I wanted to comment yesterday that I’ve really noticed that with Luft.

I’m not sure if I can tell that’s super AI either way because from what I’ve seen or remember his voting flys a lot more often as either alignment and earlier too.

I did vote, btw. I voted Erika (I even think I did early on yesterday, just not sure), and I pushed and voted GG on D1 (maybe not glorious, but still).

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

@MartinGG99

Because of the flip, in the above post, he has to conclude himself as a killer xD

I would like to selfishly note this is probably the hardest town-slip I ever done

I didn’t even note that I was confirmed town (when that’s not true for anyone else’s pespective) and yet I treated it as such without even proclaiming it

Edit: Grammar and clarification.

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

@Luftwaffle

I did vote, btw. I voted Erika (I even think I did early on yesterday, just not sure), and I pushed and voted GG on D1 (maybe not glorious, but still).

Well, I was referring to the frequency of voting overall, not that you did or didn’t vote someone.

Whatever. You’re probably more likely town than not, and that’s where I am at right now.

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

@YoubutWorse

sorry I like completely forgot about this game since I thought we had it locked with erika as killer

So you’re admitting to have not cared about finding, discussing, or thinking who are the other killers during that time?

Also, you only said this and never really did it:

@YoubutWorse

Alrighty then, assuming Erika is the killer then, shall we attempt to find the last killer today?
what im trying to say is we shouldnt hammer erika yet

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

I mean, the whole big post after that is you having some neutral-ish interactions with many people and no real killer/scum-hunting.

Its just posturing to look town without doing anything.

[Luftwaffle]

@MartinGG99

I think I needlessly valued his fluffing and didn’t really look for much solving, hence a critical error in evaluating YBW.

Last time I checked his ISO, I saw no significant solving attempts, which means his posts were mostly fluff. How did you make a critical error in evaluating that, seeing how both are corollary?
I’m willing to vote him btw, I just won’t for now to avoid quick hammers.

[MartinGG99 (AKA That one Idiot)]

@Luftwaffle

How did you make a critical error in evaluating that, seeing how both are corollary?

Because people make mistakes some times…? :shrug:

A short tl;dr of it is that I saw no immediate scum purpose to them; no agenda. I failed to consider excessive fluffing as well.

[Spak]

@MartinGG99

Because of the flip, in the above post, he has to conclude himself as a killer xD

Wait. But that would mean he didn’t know that the 2nd killer no-killed, meaning that he must be the “last” killer on the list.

I was dumbfounded by Erika flip tbh. Based on their activity, I couldn’t see a world where town!Erika happens. I also didn’t think that a NK with a confirmed killer would happen, but here we are…

I’m strongly of the opinion that TBW is one of the killers. My ISO of him yesterday still holds, and it’s hard for me to imagine the possibility of two of Luft/Martin/Andres being scum (Luft v. Martin being SvS reading as TvT would be super unlikely without scumchat imo).

[Andresvmb (Andrés)]

So what do we know?

We probably know (nothing is a certainty with GoldenGirl, but if after seeing Erika flip Town they changed their decision again, I’m going to have some choice words later) that Luft is not the Third Killer. We also know that the Second Killer failed to shoot, and that the last post GoldenGirl made was that they would RB YoubutWorse.

[Andresvmb (Andrés)]

If the intent was to frame YBW yesterday, then most likely, YBW is not the second killer. At the very least, I very much doubt it.