Scum flip doesn’t prove a slip.
Need to show relative absence of behavior in analogous situations where said person is town too.
I think the best way for us to read Elwood properly if for him to post more. If he turns out to be scum you can tout his post as a slip if that makes you happy but idt I’m ready to lynch somebody based on a dubiously worded post.
1 Like
Srceenplay one makes no sense and I honestly dont understand how what screenplay says lock clears him either, that made no sense to me.
I kinda need more from Chesskid before I can even begin to unpack what alignment he is and what that means in relation to Elwood/Srceen.
Srceen himself just jumped on me out of nowhere, which he does as both alignments (and with me as both alignments) early in games and often times its a ruse to see who jumps on it so kinda wondering if this is gonna turn into that or not. if he continues pushing me i would lean scum on it. chesskid is bold enough to locktown clear both of his partners if he is scum
Screenplay thinks that chesskid townreading him is enough to lock him town, which feels like tmi to me because if chesskid is scum, the town read from chess is worthless.
He’s used the same logic multiple times before as town.
the above is not an indication of a town lean btw
I mean you and I just dont see eye to eye on how social deception games like this are meant to be played ala wifom. If you want to see it as a black and white - scum flip doesnt prove a slip fine thats your perogative but if I see something that I think is a slip and it turns out to be a scum flip later im going to say that what it is that i saw that lead me to think you were scum actually is something that was an indication that you were scum
there are unspoken vibes you can catch between the lines when dealing with human interactions even through the computer.
I think there is some overlap between things that town players do and things that scum players do that you really can’t draw a person’s alignment from. Elli is saying that the types of “slips” that you draw attention to are potentially in that category.
You said that 7/10 times a person you said has slipped turned out to be mafia which shows that sometimes, townies do what you would call a “scum slip.” If townies do something, it can’t be scum indicative.
I would say those 3 times are more misinterpretations on my part also thats not a real stat
Perspective slips are a real thing and they happen more than you all are making it out to be
Tune in your 3rd eye and you will see them
Become one with the vibezz
I would like Elli’s thoughts on these posts and w/e data he has on DS whenever he decides its optimal to post content
If you see a black cat cross the road you think “that means it’s going to rain today” and then it rains, it doesn’t mean black cats crossing the road are an indicator of rain.
I agree that slips are a thing (I define a slip to be anything someone unconsciously does that they are significantly more likely to do when they are scum than they are town) - I actually think that they’re one of the very few reliable things you can use consistently for reads in game (the other two being conscious differences and player interactions).
What I dispute are some of the particular things you point out as being nontrivially more likely to come from a particular player as some alignment.
Anyway I suspect neither of us will convince the other that they’re wrong in the near future and certainly not in a game so I’ll drop it.
I was in the middle of checking xD.
What thoughts do you want me to have.
I want to know whether you’ve seen DS ever split my play by site meta as town bc I only remember him doing it one particular game where he was scum, and he did that in order to back up a read on me.
Off the top of my head he did it in Demonic when he was town.
I think there’s sufficient evidence he does believe in thinking about cross-site play that way for people for who it applies.
I think he specifically said he didn’t see a reason to split my play by site, but he may have reconsidered after I brought up how different my play by site is.
Don’t think it’s anything significant.