This was pretty much what I was thinking as a first instinct as well.
And I did clarify that scum still have scumchat even if they are late arrivals. So they have all this time to see the direction the thread is going and come up with strategies to take advantage of wherever things are when they get in the game.
Andres just made me go 
Why?
Can you expand on this?
Iām not sure how to feel about Andres, I donāt have any disagreement with what heās said and I like the tone of his posts but that might be more of a cool person read than an alignment read
I wish we could nuke 4 instead of 2 tt
This part but I am slightly tipsy rn
Itās kinda hard to say and Iām not gonna pretend my reads on Andres are good but it feels too pc and not enough conversation, itās making s long post to satisfy criteria rather than talking the game out I think
Iāve been thinking about this as a strategy, and I think itās a bad one. And itās fairly simple in my mind - you might get away with this in part D1, but you would get slaughtered D2. And that I think is the big risk of having too many Mafia here early. I do think the setup incentivizes Mafia to pick whoever they think can survive like a cockroach the first few days, and defer as many of their brethren as possible.
I know better than to ask Elli for reasons on his reads. What I do want to do is use them for focus because Iāll be honest, Iāve never played in a game this big with this many players I donāt know, so a little direction is a boon.
Does it seem like Andres has put too much thought into scum strategy? Discuss.
That bit does feel a little like stating the obvious ngl
Nah you should be putting thought into scum strategy if you are trying to read them thatās correct town play not scummy
#getinlosersweregoingshopping
I mean, the most meh thing about that quote is that it just seems like itās kind of obvious that we should be scrutinizing people that enter the thread late. But I donāt think itās bad to explicitly say and I donāt really see this as AI. Then again, one thing I know from observing two or three games here is that you people have freakishly good reads on each other on sometimes very few posts that I wouldnāt see as AI myself. So Iāll keep my eye on how this develops between you two but Iām not actually reading into any of this yet.
Not where I come from.
StarV is in the deferred pool. So maybe hold this thought until later.
Youāre trying to read Andres who comes from here though, Iām trying my best to be the mafia 451 tour guide to those who will flame post game for people not explaining enough
Thatās fair.
But do you think there exists such a thing as using āWhat I think scum would doā too heavily as a way of getting out of making actual reads based on whatās actually happening now, vs hypothetical scum plays?
You know, I havenāt been outside in like multiple days, so I have no idea how the weather really feels right now. What I can tell you is that my AC is blasting and Iām feeling nice and cool.
I think thatās different than implying that thinking about how scum would play makes you scum, Iām already suspicious of Andres but he would think of good scum play regardless of alignment because heās a good player
Iād nuke star twice today tbh.