You’re abysmal scum? 
News to me but I don’t play on other sites really. @Nuxl thoughts?
(Sorry for out of order I’m replying as I read down)
Hello hannahh the mason partner of mine
I don’t know that I have all that much to add. I think lynching StarV doesn’t make much sense. I think DS is Town. I’m completely unwilling to go along with the idea that whoever doesn’t get lynched is guaranteed Town. And that’s primarily because I don’t think StarV is an easy read, and his (in my opinion) ridiculous use of the Gladiator role could be a gambit (not the most likely scenario, but not completely out of the question). However, I am also going to assume that Elli is trying to place his Team in a position to succeed, and the Gladiator role is just not conducive to that. And then to use it D1? There’s Modified Faith Healers, a 1-Shot Vig, Trackers, and a Commuter, and you want me to believe that Elli actively bid on Gladiator? Even though I hate StarV for this nonsense, and I think what he’s doing is grossly suboptimal and just wrong, I won’t be voting there. No Lynching doesn’t seem like an option here, because then you’re just letting the Scum decide. And we shouldn’t let that happen. So yeah, this sucks, but I’m sticking to my DS vote in this instance.
@DS, if you flip Town, and I think you will, I’m sorry. I don’t know what else to say.
I don’t know that I think Dusk’s reaction is over the top. I mean, I had the same reaction.
But I’ll leave all that for tomorrow.
Hey Hannahh! We’ve never played together, so it’s nice to meet you.
I share your skepticism about Dusk being abysmal Scum. I would totally disagree.
Votecount as of post #467
No lynch (5): DS, ErikaFurudo, Nanook, Wisp, GTacc
DS (3): Andresvmb, Srceenplay, StarV
StarV (3): Duskfall98, Key, ActionDan
Not Voting (4): DoggoPlays, Hannahh, Urist, Nuxl
Wait I don’t think I’m a mason?
Yeah I don’t think Star is scum tbh. His logic makes sense from his POV.
Oh god I feel this I’m scrolling down and all the softing is going right over my head I think.
New people: wtf is going on
Nanook: happy to help translate the shorthand
New people: crickets
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- Fruit Vendor: Gives fruit to a player each night–cannot be used alongside a factional action.
- Public Vanilla: will be confirmed to not have any power at the start of Day 1.
- 2-shot neighborizer: Can create a chat with another player twice during the game.
- 1-shot gladiator: Can type “Gladiate Player ” once during the game, resetting the votes and making the user and the target the only possible lynches for that day.
@Andresvmb, are these all town?
show me.
How is no lynching letting scum decide? If this is TvT it saves both of us from this dumbass move by Star
yeah this is how the central group of 451 plays and I agree it is hard for new people to play with.
Role assignment wasn’t random. So if Star is town that means chess decides to give him the gladiator role. It could follow that chess gave Star the gladiator role because star always SRs DS, so it’s his way of communicating that ds is scum.
That’s the logic anyways. Not advocating it, just saying that star could reasonably believe it as town.
This was never expressed by StarV this game to my knowledge.
That just seems like references to using it at all early, not specifically on DS and not specifically to say that it was predestined to be on him and that Chesskid is a messiah. If it were as you say there would have been nothing stopping StarV from saying what you believe he was implying more empathetically.
Chess doesn’t need to be a messiah, he knows the alignments already lol