I really like this logic. Also with some of us claimed doctor is probably super obv atp to mafia unless every claim so far has been mafia? Chances doc lives is prob v low but I think since we have some info roles still alive mafia might go for the trackers (we still have even + odd right?) instead.
I can totally see why the whole Key situation and me claiming neighborized with key AFTER key died is sus af, and saying Key doubted your alignment is sus af, but I still don’t see why you’re jumping onto me as scum. I was UTR and fairly tr until I went after you, I don’t see why I’d throw that away as scum?
So we started n1, I was really conflicted as to who to neighborize. Ngl, I didn’t pick Tommy for the reasons that he would get nk’d most likely as town, if he were scum he’d ez pocket me, and I didn’t wanna have to lean on someone from my home community so early on this game. So I was debating Nanook who gave weird vibes, Key, DS [ Again easy to pocket me, high vote out risk/night kill risk.] I thought Dan would be inactive, so I ended up picking between Key/Gtacc at the end of the night. Key seemed to know wtf she was doing on the site and felt like someone I could try to ask about metas.
She asked really quickly why I didn’t pick Tommy or Nanook, explained above, and we got into it. She asked about some of smogoon’s metas, I explained all my past games to her as best I could to describe smogoons etc. We kind of both thought that maybe Dusk was scum. On October 8th, she said scum could be between Andres + Wisp. Obv a lot has happened since then. We agreed on town!Dusk and then we started sring Doggo for his smogon town-core thingy. She wrote, I think after the srceen lynch (OCtober 11th?) that it was v susp that I didn’t vote, but thought I was town and gave me her reads. I don’t wanna get too close to quoting but she said Scum didn’t try to protect Srceen, so she thought some scum could be inactive. Mentioning Wisp/Erika/Nuxl/-maybe-Dan/DS (for hammering). She was solid townreading Dusk and Andres here, and said that you wouldn’t lead that lynch as scum. She thought that Doggo was being a bit weird but didn’t think he’d throw a temper tantrum at eod as scum when his partner is lynched. She then questioned why I didn’t claimr eceiving fruit earlier (I forgot until I saw in thread).
I mentioned that the only person rlly defending Srceen was me. We started the scum!Nuxl read, and I tried to sum up my reads upon her request.
I said I thought Tommy was town for being too OTT. I didn’t think Eriks vs Doggo was TvT, but I then said I didn’t know enough about Erika or Andres to comment. At this point, before the Tommy flip, I sr’d Nuxl and Doggo, which was backed up by the whole towncore thing. (‘One maybe TWO smogoons are scum’ -> When Nuxl flips scum doggo is maybe likely town in a DoggoxNuxl scum world was my logic). I didn’t think GTacc was scum for the same memey play day 1. Oh apparently I made a longer reads list too.
I TR’d Tommy/Key, TL’d DS (temper tantrum), GTacc (early attention), Erika (Fought Doggo). Neutral on Dan/Wisp, and scumread Nuxl/Doggo. I even made a “confused” category for Star and Andres lmao.
On October 13th she asked me to check the game where I saw Nuxl disappear as scum (which I forgot to do REPEATEDLY and finally did confirm). She said she didn’t think Doggo was scum, felt too openly unapologentically opinionated to be scum on a new site. She said she didn’t want to claim neighborised. I mentioned not wanting to neighborize Doggo because we bicker sometimes. Last things she posted were quoting me saying I would be surprised if FV were scum but also wasn’t sure whyeveryone was so concrete on FV (as a role) being town and giving me lmao. She mentioned Nuxl/Dan inactivity all of D3 and said that Maybe Andres DID actually bus, given DS’s flip. She said to neighborize Wisp, or someone likely to be acitve but not die, and then said we’d be 6:3 today and then mislynch would give us lylo/mylo.
Uhm. If these aren’t good reasons to think you’re Scum, and you’re relying on stuff that can’t be corroborated (instead of what Key actually said in game), then… what makes anyone Scum?
I didn’t catch Srceen because of his meta. I caught him because he was acting like obvious Scum. There’s not that many people that defended Srceen. In fact, I find it fascinating that you disappeared when the momentum swung definitively against Srceen. Erika is the only other obvious person to have tried to move it away for a bit. Not everyone voted for Srceen, and in fact there were only 4 votes there for some time. Yet, my vote and rationale gets completely discounted by this “oh he bussed” logic, instead of analyzed under the FAR more likely scenario that I just correctly voted for Scum.
And DS brought this entirely upon himself. I hadn’t misread DS in very many games in a row, and in fact would have most likely never turned on him had he not been so obviously wrong on me. Discounting what every other dead Townie said about me, and focusing so much on the things that seem to support your narrative, is why I’m so sure you’re Scum.
I thought Srceen was possibly townie because he was so cocky. I’m not saying you caugh him from meta, I just thought being overly cocky and arrogant was too over the top to be scum? I don’t see how that’s obviously scummy, it feels too attention-draw-esque to be a scum play.
I’m not sure when Srceen got lynched but I remember not being online. There’s no timestamps on posts from that long ago so I’m unsure whether I was asleep or not.
Everyother dead townie? Tommy told me I was scum for TRYING. You can’t just blindly sheep people after they die. Reads can be wrong sometimes. I’m not focusing on what support my narrative, I just said I had a gut scum-read on you. I know you didn’t see what Key said about you but I did and I do think that bussing is weird, I didn’t really see how the wagon started or maybe I just don’t remember, but I know that some people bus weirdly for the sake of saying ‘why tf would I bus.’
I’ve explained what I think in detail, and it’s there for everyone to see.
And if you are so sure I’m Scum, I don’t know why you’re bothering to try and change my mind so hard not to get lynched. You can think I’m Scum all you want. I don’t really care. If you flip me, then it’ll be obvious to everyone what was happening.
I wasn’t talking about what they said about you. I was talking about what they said about me. You’re making a whole case against me mostly based on suspicious Key supposedly had on me but never shared here, but ignoring what Key, Dusk, and Nanook all said about me. And that’s ridiculous.
Like the votes were completely spaced out amongst several players when I voted for Srceen. Yet I went out of my way to bus one of my partners that had ONE Vote only to be able to say that I bussed? And then the one weirdly phrased sentence I wrote where I am musing out loud essentially gets me SR? Get out of here.
lmao. She mentioned Nuxl/Dan inactivity all of D3 and said that Maybe Andres DID actually bus, given DS’s flip. She said to neighborize Wisp, or someone likely to be acitve but not die, and then said we’d be 6:3 today and then mislynch would give us lylo/mylo.