Mafia 451 Draft

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#1842

@StarV @ErikaFurudo let’s do this.

#1843

This is how I have the game up until now, btw. Just in case:

Town
{Urist, Nanook, Duskfall98, Key, DS}
Lean Town
{StarV, ErikaFurudo, GTacc}
Slight Lean Town
{Doggoplays, Wisp}
Neutral
{ActionDan}
Lean Scum
{Nuxl, Hannahh}
Scum
{Srceenplay}

#1844

not voting wisp or screen is bad because?

#1845

legit scumreading ad over nuxl because everyone wants to lynch nuxl first. seems influenced, but they are both question marks.

#1846

This is what you took from my entire series of posts?

#1847

I like Hannah but voting andres is -.-

#1848

you thini its tmi?

#1849

I think that there’s a lot of reasons to think Hannahh will flip Scum.

#1850

eh hannah be town pls

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#1851

I’m alive.

Gtacc’s claim doesn’t sit well with me. While on my tracking night Key was one of the people I considered for scum, I literally made a post in my confessionals that tracking the person that mafia wanted to kill would be bad, and I said of my suspects Key was the most likely to be killed if they weren’t scum, so I chose not to track Key because of that. If I had this foresight a whole game cycle earlier than when gtacc tracked, then I don’t see why gtacc wasn’t capable of this thought as well.

Also can someone refresh me on gtacc’s first tracking claim? I remember they made one but I can’t seem to find it.

#1852

We also have to look at why mafia didn’t kill Gtacc last night. He was the prime target in theory. Either he’s scum and not a threat to mafia, or both he and the doctor are town and mafia was scared the doctor would protect him.

#1853

This means that if Gtacc is town, the doctor HAS to be town.

#1854

Sadly it’s not the reverse logic as well, since if the doctor is town the mafia still has the other hypothetical reason of not killing gtacc because he’s scum. But if Gtacc is town, the doctor HAS to be town, since the only reason scum wouldn’t kill a town tracker on the night of their track is because of fear of a town doctor.

#1855

I am heal

#1856

k, doing more logic stuff. Assuming mafia doctor, then an assumed town gtacc would have been killed as well. So, if doctor is scum, gtacc HAS to be scum.

If Gtacc is town, then doctor HAS to be town. If doctor is scum, gtacc HAS to be scum. If gtacc is scum, doctor is unconfirmed. If doctor is town, gtacc is unconfirmed.

#1857

So, following the postulate that if doctor is scum, gtacc HAS to be scum, if we enact my plan and my plan reveals that the doctor is scum, then town knows the doctor and gtacc have to be scum together, which gives town the enormous information of definitively knowing two of the three remaining scum.

If we enact my plan and my plan reveals the doctor was town, gtacc is unconfirmed, but my track will give us information as long as I don’t track the person who was killed, which would likely be the doctor (well in this case, the only definitive way of revealing the doctor as town is if they die and flip anyway… which yes is less than ideal, but again the odds of scum killing town doctor is super high on their own anyway and my plan basically outs 2 scum if I die, and if I don’t die and doctor doesn’t die, then we still get my track and we still may have a town doctor or at least info to read the doctor more if you want to solve by reads instead of game mechanics).

#1858

gtacc living and having a ddead result is p awful, but the way he claimed it semed v genuine confusion

#1859

still feeling nuxhl and ad. this game has been town shitting itself, why does maf evern need to chime in?

#1860

We really should lynch Hannahh first.

#1861

I’d sooner lynch ad than hannah