Mafia 451 Draft

Also, VOTE: Nuxl.

@GTacc so uhhh you’re alive, that’s cool I guess. Do your thing when you get the chance.

In the meantime, I’m doing this.

VOTE: Andresvmb

In honor of the deceased DS. You guys are all this game is friendly for not seeing the town in DS.

Will go back and read Key’s stuff now that they flipped info role town.

Also just saying that I’ve sort of lost faith / hope / whatever in this game and am not sure how much I even want to continue.

willing to change this later if I have to, but still putting my vote here for at least a while :[

Actually, shit, I might have just gamesolved, or at least hodgepodged a partial path.

We’re 2 mislynches away from losing. Will say more after more people talk.

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DS tried using this game in order to attempt to win his ongoing ranked game, a game in which I saved him day 1 and he still pulled out the same narrative.

I’m not saying that anything said in this thread is right, but a clash of playstyle between me and DS is probably not the primary thing we should be upset about here.

To be clear, don’t read the above as alignment indicative or AtE, I’m just laying out that if you’re going to be upset about/at someone, you should understand what was going on.

That is the last I will comment on this situation.

VOTE: ActionDan

I think if we just follow the PoE layed out by myself/key, then we should win.

Looking for a yes / no answer.

Have you been neighborized?

No

If you are voting me and think you have “game solved”, well you definitely haven’t.

And trying to somehow “honor” DS when I was put in that position and not the other way around is bad play. But please, explain why it makes me Scum.

I don’t want to lynch Dan first. Yeah, he might be Scum. I’m not sure, and he hasn’t made it obvious. But I have a sense that he isn’t Scum here purely from some of the questions that he’s asked. I really do think we should avoid there for now.

@ActionDan @GTacc @ErikaFurudo I need your input here.

Andres says dan very well might be scum but wants to lynch elsewhere first… then to bolster his argument he tags dan and asks him what to do. :thonk:

Anyway, I am fairly certain I know who the remaining doctor is, I don’t know their alignment and I’m considering outing them them in a plan that either guarantees us that they out themselves as scum if they don’t follow the plan or that allows us to likely find scum anyway. There’s a certain risk of failure if mafia do some weird unexpected shit but I think that unexpected shit hurts them more than not in the long run.

When I said I might have a gamesolve, I meant a mechanical solve. One based on game logic, not one based on reads. I’m still trying to crunch shit and make sure I’m not missing something, and there’s a few pieces that I’m looking for from a few people today to judge the feasibility of this.

I think this is a terrible plan. If it wasn’t so transparently bad, I would think it was Scummy. You do realize the other Faith Healer is dead, the Vig has been used, and the Vengeful player was NK’ed right? So the ONLY circumstance in which the Faith Healer can be used is for the benefit of Town. So even if it was in the hands of Scum (doubtful), your “plan” would ensure that potentially one player does not get NK’ed one Night and instead, you focus the shot on one of the few useful PR’s left.

If not a different player of course.

Okay sorry I’m around. Watching the uh, Key + Andres vs DS fight made me cringe so hard I just left and when I came back at like 5 AM gmt I realized phase was rip cause modkill.

Super upset about the Key flip tbh, she was my strongest townread, stronger than Tommy was when he was alive. Let me look back at what she said.

I wouldn’t call it a fight. I would call it game throwing.

I do stand by my read on you yesterday, I think you and Nuxl could be scum together. Unfort we had a modkilled townie because I think we had a good chance of lynching scum yesterday.

VOTE: Andres

Also i’m still unsure about Nuxl, because if he’s scum I swear his partners would have tried to get him subbed by now??