M16 Game Thread

At the moment I think I’m about as suspicious of Bepwei as I am of Arete due to the prior vote. I am keeping my vote on Arete because I think there’s more info to be gained from an Arete flip.

wait it works now

tf

I even reloaded to be sure

whoa

if I had known it would do that I’d have been carefuller to write all of them like that

would be cool if it had the preview without jumping going on but I suspect that’d be REALLY hard to do in Discourse

Vote Count

Arete (2): orangeandblack5, Ari_2412
JKBear331 (2): Squirrel2412, Arete
Squirrel2412 (1): EricKline
EricKline (1): clonedcheese
bepwei (1): Quin

Not Voting (8): cattypaws_f, JKBear331, GoalkeeperBoss, laserlab, TheFlash, k.aylee2412, GTacc, bepwei

Khaos

Votecount as of post #1004

EricKline (4): Ari_2412, Squirrel2412, Quin, k.aylee2412
orangeandblack5 (2): clonedcheese, GoalkeeperBoss
GoalkeeperBoss (2): cattypaws_f, orangeandblack5
k.aylee2412 (1): EricKline

Not Voting (8): TheFlash, EricH, laserlab, 000peo, GTacc, bepwei, Arete, JKBear331

odds >1 scum are in the not voting pile atp feel like they should be high in any world except scum!EK

EricH and 000peo are town
bepwei and laserlab are towny imo
so that leaves Flash/Arete/GTacc/JKB as a group of people worth looking into

EK voters feels like it could easily contain >0 in any world except scum!EK, and I think Ari is towny so that makes squirrel/quin/kaylee another group of interest - of these, I think quin has done some things I find townier than not, and bepwei hard vouches for kaylee, so I should really get to a squirrel re-read before EoD

the rest are a tossup, but given the gamestate it might honestly be more likely scum are offwagon than on EK if the thread is kinda coasting towards him/I? I think cheese is town, EK is town, and I’m not a fan of GKB/cattypaws, so we’ll say that can be a third group to look at? I’ll need to look at pressure on GKB over the course of the day and if him voting me instead of an easier elim means anything or not.

getting tired and not seeing a reply from this Japanese business I’ve been e-mailing so may just go to bed soon

Well in regards to Bepwei, I can’t think of anything super notable that he’s said other than defending me as town, and since that opinion kinda biased my opinion I stopped looking at him with as much scrutiny as I probably should have. It actually hadn’t occurred to me that I just sort of blatantly stared townleaning him because he defended me until right now, so I should look into him more. (I realize this didn’t really take a stance but I’m admitting my unintentional bias so like I think that’s at least something of use?)

In terms of EK, Orange, and Arete as individuals:
i have never been able to get an accurate read on orange in any game I’ve played, in fact the games I was convinced he was town he ended up mafia and vice versa, so I tend to just leave him at null and let other people try to read him while I read how much I trust them.
EK, as ive said before, I wouldn’t be surprised if either him or squirrel turn out mafia. Now, obviously that could be wrong, I’m not going to back that belief up inevitably, but atm I think it’s a very strong possibility that if I were mafia I might consider (not that I actually have ANY idea on how I would play as mafia)
Arete is, ummm, well Im not quite sure. Sometimes I read they’re posts and think they are being super helpful, other times I just blatantly disagree but can see the logic, and other times I think they are being kinda sus. Now I can’t remember any specific time that any of these happened, but I remember me feeling those things so like I COULD look into it more and pull quotes but I don’t feel it’s necessary.

In terms of the afore mentioned people and their strange connection (IMO):
Now, all three of these players are smart. I would argue some of the best players in this game at the very least. So I know that at least one of them is smart enough to try to pocket another in hopes of getting more people to follow along. You guys talk a lot more than most others, and therefor have a bit more influence. The fact that all 3 of you seem to have some degree of blind trust with the others is concerning to me, because I know you guys are too smart for all 3 of you as townies to allow yourselves to be pocketed/Pocketing because that can cause problems later on AND have an influence in your individual opinions and biases during any sort of analysis. So I guess I’m saying if all 3 of you are town, then (no offense) your playing kind of poorly in this situation, so a part of me hopes one of you IS mafia to make this make more sense.

I hope that was coherent. It makes sense in my head but it is late and I had a really funky day (almost passed out at work and started to get frostbite after teaching a group of difficult children) so if there are questions please ask

not sure I agree that can’t be not TMI

like

“The scum might want to kill the second-to-top poster” is a valid and normal thought to have

also p sure “town kill” here is just the l word?

I back

Why ppl post walls

I know, I was surprised too

Sorry! I didn’t realize how long it was until I posted it already

Though to be fair I tend to have less posts, but have them be kinda chunky to make up for it

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I mean

I’m not saying that it can’t not be TMI

mostly because I’m not sure what it’s saying at all

@JKBear331 can you explain what you were trying to say in P#1081

meh

you know what’s better than V/V wagons

V/V/V wagons

however I don’t think scum wants laser out more than EK or 000peo considering he p new

Brain fried
Brain no read

Big sad

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I don’t think that was me

I think most wolves, and particularly wolf!cloned, wouldn’t want to risk bringing attention to themself by CFDing to a third villager if the other two options were both villagers

varies somewhat by person but cloned in particular is way more cautious as scum in my experience

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fair enough

we’ll ride this for now

VOTE: JK

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when you get around to that let me know where it leads you :slight_smile:

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checks out