M16 Game Thread

alrighty then

where’s your head at

Seeing as I really havent read that much, I have no idea rn

Well in that case

What questions do you want answered to help you catch up

ngl was expecting thread activity to increase as we got nearer west coast nighttime

bit disappointed that really didn’t happen

I would have probably payed more attention to this thread in the last several hours but my brother wanted me to play video games with him and I got distracted

what’d you play

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Mario cart for a while, and then he made me play Minecraft with him. He got a Nintendo switch for Christmas and has been super excited to play games with me (he’s only 9)

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switch is cool

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To be honest, I don’t really remember a lot of what you’ve said

Yeah it’s been fun. We didn’t really have anything to play games on as a family before he got that so it’s been nice

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I mean, okay I guess?

I figured since basically half the people here are scum leaning me that people would pay more attention, at least enough to make an opinion on it.

But like I guess it’s a good thing that nothing I’ve said has stood out to you? Idk that feels like an insult and a compliment at the same time

neat

anyways

where are you at on EK/Arete/myself since you said you doubted all three were town

I mean I haven’t really had the chance to look into it more since I said that, I spent an insane amount of time in the bath regaining feeling in my fingers and toes and then was playing with my brother, but I can elaborate on my thought at the time if you’d like?

okay I re-read EoD and took some notes, starting from P#1005 (1 hour before EoD)

raw notes (feel free to skip this, I tried to make it comprehensible but I didn’t try very hard

starting from P#1005 (~1 hour before EoD)

VC is

EricKline (4): Ari_2412, Squirrel2412, Quin, k.aylee2412
orangeandblack5 (2): clonedcheese, GoalkeeperBoss
GoalkeeperBoss (2): cattypaws_f, orangeandblack5
k.aylee2412 (1): EricKline
000peo (1): Arete

Not Voting (7): TheFlash, EricH, laserlab, 000peo, GTacc, bepwei, JKBear331

orange joins 000peo wagon P#1009 – seems consistent with general attitude w.r.t. Kline?

Bep joins with sheep emoji in P#1012 – likes it better than other wagons (orange + Kline + GKB at the time)
his vote makes me vaguely uncomfortable but I’m pretty sure it’s mostly the emoji

Eric P#1024 ‘We’ve got plenty of time to start something new if you have a suspicion’ – think this is townie (currently Eric is top wagon with 4, 000peo next with 3). Think scum here would be more focused on killing 000peo.

Eric also keeps solving under pressure (1035/1036) +townpoints

Bep at least slightly seems to care about the wagons in 1037
weak clear but I do think it’s >rand V

Kaylee really doesn’t seem to care (currently at 1043, but noticed it in earlier posts too)

same with JKbear around 1046

cloned says he ‘dislike[s] both wagons’ (1054) but doesn’t really try to change them
edit: in 1080 he does propose some alternatives

don’t like the hedge from Kaylee in 1062

really not liking JKBear in 1066

laserlab pops in but doesn’t really do anything in 1073
cutting him some slack for it because he’s new + he’s been super pure

stance from Kaylee in 1074 is a little better? depends on how much stock I put into Eric’s theory that scum would want to kill him because he’s good + active

P#1081 - JK votes 000peo because he doesn’t want to D1 Eric
I’m also not totally sure what ‘i don’t feel ok with kill eric D1 if maf want to do that it will tell us more than a town kill’ is saying but I think it might be TMIing Eric V? I’m reading it as speculating that scum might nightkill Eric but I could be totally wrong

Squirrel is trying to solve things which is +town but not really caring about the wagons which is -town (1083)

1089 giant analysis post from Quin on Eric
want to townread this just for effort which is probably dumb

Bep DADV reasoning 1102 - checked his vote (he’s on 000peo) and it seems consistent

1126 - I am very confused about this, Laser votes Eric but says the evidence isn’t strong enough to elim anyone? it’s so contradictory I kind of think it wraps around to being townie

1133 - cloned tries to CFD Laserlab
think this is villagery basically regardless of Eric’s alignment? like if Eric is W it would make the most sense to push 000peo as W, if Eric is V then proposing a CFD with V/V wagons is ++townpoints

1137 is the claim

1150 + 1151 - just going to quote these

I THINK THESE ARE LIKELY IMPORTANT RE: THE NIGHTKILL SPECULATION

if JK/cloned are Mafia then it makes sense that they wouldn’t expect the vengeful to go off if Eric is killed at night

if they aren’t Mafia then it’s still possible that Mafia saw those posts and assumed cloned was right

also kind of :eyes: that neither of them admitted to thinking that was how it worked when someone (forget who, maybe Orange?) specifically asked if anyone but me thought it worked that way

overall thoughts

Cloned’s EoD was really good, there were some parts earlier that I thought were a bit :eyes: but when I got to the later part where he actually followed up on some of what he was saying (e.g. by trying to CFD) I see a lot of town motivation and not a lot of scum motivation

Eric felt like town under pressure more than scum under pressure, even as we got down to the wire he was still trying to solve the game. think he’s very likely V.

A couple of things Bep did were mildly townie, not super lock clearing but he did seem to care about the wagons + I can basically follow his thought process

Kaylee and Squirrel both made me mrrr a little, they didn’t seem super invested in the wagons, although both of them did make some effort to solve outside of that

really don’t like JKbear’s EoD, he didn’t seem to care about the wagons ~at all, and he basically didn’t do anything meaningful in the hour I read

VOTE: JKbear

Sure

I’m also very interested in your thoughts on bepwei

So those areas would be really appreciated!

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oh

@Ellibereth

wait why does it work in the quote but not in the actual post

weird

Took me a while to read through the past 6 hours.

I generally don’t focus so much on who I trust, but rather who I think the mafia are. That’s why in past games it’s hard for me to say who I trust.

would appreciate thoughts on this particularly on the conclusions

no u