Well yeah…
It looks like its either gonna be you or him from what I can tell. Can you give me a good case for why you are town and why GKB is scum?
GKB was pushing for not voting Catty last night (someone who the mafia would have known was aligned with them)
and I had backed off (at least somewhat) for the vote on EK the day before and had moved over the vote on Catty
I voted Arete on D2
If I was maf and in role position 3 neighborizer wouldn’t have been the move, I mean idk I haven’t played forum mafia before this is just what I am thinking based on what other people have been saying
I will talk more about this later when after I take a closer look back at earlier in the game
Edit: I only voted with the people we know are mafia once and that we on d3, all my other votes were with people who are either dead (confirmed town) or aren’t under suspicion currently
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Does anyone have any ideas for what we should do?
Hey y’all, sorry for being away for most of the day
After reading through GKB’s ISO, here’s what I got:
GKB was mostly tunneling Orange d1-d2 (quick note, cat voted for him but I’m going to venture that cat’s votes are pretty much NAI for everyone else), but later switches between voting me and jk eod2. Notably, he doesn’t ever vote arete during eod2.
D3 GKB is a very hard advocate for the bep push. That’s not necessarily AI, but doesn’t do much solving aside from soft pushing me based on bepwei switching vote. Not much of note happened d4.
D5/D6 GKB’s most significant interactions are with cat (I previously did analysis here - tldr is that GKB soft defends cat by floating the idea that she’s twtbaw) and the push on EK, which I’m starting to think scum motivated because voting out town!EK situation results in a win for mafia or lylo, which is better than mylo.
After making this post I’d also like to appreciate how GKB autocorrects to Bob, which is honestly hilarious.
Gonna do laser in a bit, will be back
I’m almost certain we have at least one scum among you and GKB (if not 2) - I think our best action is to determine who is the better vote.
I don’t think noelim is the answer here, since I don’t think we’d learn much from a nk
I think assuming either GKB or I are mafia is reasonable.
Unless I am misunderstanding something then voting nobody doesn’t stop the mafia from just voting 2 seconds before the day ends and killing a town and town just losing
You’re allowed to vote Noelim (if that gets majority, then nobody is voted out)
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Ok well that is good I guess though I still think it is less than ideal
I agree, just want to note that it’s possible.
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Laser ISO:
D1-D2 laser feels very passive. Unfortunately, I can’t tell if that’s town!laser just being new to the game or scum!laser being told by his teammates it’s okay to be passive because he’s new to the game.
1395 is worrying to me because arete’s the one derpclearing laser. I can’t say for certain that’s scum. Laser also parked his vote on arete, but I’m unsure if that’s calculated with the idea of earning townread after arete flipped.
D3-4 laser supported the bep vote (then again, I think all of us did), but also was more skeptical of arete than others. Honestly, at this point I feel like post-claim arete interactions are NAI just because of how much wifom they have.
3491 is interesting to me because it seems to fit a town!laser mindset of wanting to leave a better pr for more experienced townies.
The push on ek from laser was less overtly aggressive compared to GKB, but it was fairly persistent, which could be a sign of w/w.
Thoughts on his vote on arete d2?
I still can’t mentally jump that hurdle…just don’t make a whole lot of sense to me.
Hmm
It really depends on when scum came up with the acop plan
Because I can conceivably see scum!laser parking his vote on arete for post flip towncred if they came up with the plan prior to eod.
But if the acop claim was a last minute self prez move by arete then laser is town, since I think arete would’ve tried to get laser to switch votes before the self prez (and laser was around for that eod)
So…when are we doing this? I don’t want to place a vote, since scum could just hammer, but I feel like we are delaying the inevitable. Do we expect to gather any other information today?
We could “vote” in a manner that is not hammerable? (In the manner of CD voting) So for this I would vote laser over GKB at the moment on the basis I mentioned before with I can more easily see a maf partnership that includes laser more so than one that includes GKB so my “vote” would be on laser.
My vote is on GKB all day
I don’t know what to think about laser but that’s a problem for tomorrow.
I’m expecting some type of defense from GKB…
Or anyone.
As much as I know in my head that he’s the right kill, something just didn’t sit right.
Im having a hard time with this one.
If I had to choose right now, I would place my vote on GKB. Something about him just isnt sitting right with me.
I think his voting and interactions d2 are plenty for me.
It’s not about the feeling he’s giving me…if anything that’s townie.
I think he’s just the most mechanically scum
Idek what to say really besides if I die today it’s gg
Lemme look at my d2 and see if I can justify it