Okay, so what’s the harm in voting for EK this vote, then if he flips mafia, go for him next, and then Bepwei the next vote or of EK flips town voting out Bepwei next?
We could always vote Bepwei, and then vote Arete afterward regardless of what alignment Bepwei is
I don’t see how EK’s alignment helps much with Bep’s
I say we chop chop Bep since they’re practically outed scum, and do EK/Arete afterwards
But
So either way you will think Arete is scum. So why don’t we go for EK right now just to be sure?
Go to EoD and pay attention to when Arete said that he checked EK and found that he was town. This proves that the two are aligned so by voting out EK we know Arete’s alignment without needing to risk voting out the Alignment Cop
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I dislike arete’s claim; I think it could easily be scum trying to buy an extra day to live.
That said, in the current absence of a counterclaim for the slot, I think that Bepwei is a decent kill. If there is a counterclaim, I will vote arete.
however, my activity will be spotty today and tomorrow. Since majority is enabled, I will not be voting today (the chronological day, not d3), as I don’t want to risk hammer while I’m away. In addition, I think we should also give more time for people to counterclaim if possible.
I will vote, just not yet.
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reminder that scum Tracker may exist in the form of Arete
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…Why would you vote out someone that’s claimed to be town?
And furthermore
This is the exact opposite conclusion I came to, since scum likes to pocket people with fake checks
Arete is scummy. I fear that lets say we vote out Arete and he’s telling the truth, then we lost our A-cop. I’m trying to make sure we can guarantee his alignment before we make a move like that.
Hold on
Of course - I’m not saying the inverse is true (arete’s confirmed because there’s no cc)
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He said Eric is town. That’s evidence that they’re the same alignment because either this means he’s a townie telling the truth or he’s a scum trying to help his scum friend.
I agree that scum!ek means scum!arete
But does town!ek mean town!arete?
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Because I think town!Eric and scum!arete is a very real possibility - after all, scum would know exactly how everyone would appear to acop
If EK is a townie, then he is telling the truth about being the A-cop. That being said, I do see your point that he could be a mafia and EK could be town without EK targeting him.
Yes, that’s a possibility, but I don’t see it as being super likely.
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Okay let’s breath here for a second and logic this out.
Let’s go with y’all’s tinfoil. Bep, me, and Arete are scumteam.
And let’s pretend like we’re Arete last night, near the chopping block.
We have three options
1: Do nothing. Hope it doesn’t end on Arete.
From scum Arete, this makes a decent amount of sense. First, it’s entirely possible that they don’t have any PR’s, so claiming one wouldn’t work (at least, we’d have to expect a counterclaim). It was also a 33% chance it did land on him, and let’s be honest, it didn’t seem to me like that was the way it was going to go.
From town Arete, he had nearly no reason to hold this in. No reason to risk arguably the most powerful town slot. An opportunity to get out information about me and and the future nights of checking.
2: Claim role, one that Arete or another scum member actually has because we can’t risk claiming a role of a town. However, we claim another member of town so that if Arete dies, we bring a town down with them.
Scum Arete has insensitive if he thinks that the vote will go towards him. Bringing down a town would be neat, and decently likely if he did flip anyway.
3: Same as 2 but we claim a member of the scumteam is town to help protect them.
The hope here would be that you could hypothetically clear yourself while simultaneously clearing another scum team member. However if EITHER of you die in anyway, than both is screwed. High risk, high reward.
Which one is most likely?
Now let’s throw bep into the situation. What Ari and others are seriously claiming, is that Arete, a scum team member, claimed cop, told everyone that scum!me was town (this inexcusably locking us two together), and then, told everyone that bep was scum. In this story, every single scum team member has now been outed and is inexplicably screwed if either I or Arete flips.
Why would anyone ever take a risk like that. Arguably you could build more town cred by clearing another town member. Bep, nor I, were even close to being on the radar. Neither of us needed saving.
So if we vote out Arete, who would you go for next?
I can honestly not believe that this is a conversation we are having.