[Game Thread] SFM1 - Puella Magi Forum★Mafia: Rebellion

[Arete]

so now you can understand my skepticism

…yeah

[Wisp (Kyle)]

imagine having 22 players and if we mislynch today we are probably in mylo/lylo, I really dont see the point of all this

and all town has is a jailkeeper, which roleblocks at the cost of protection? who we lynched day 1?

k

[Wisp (Kyle)]

There is a fine line between a game of mafia, and a mechanical rollercoaster
The first is fun, I like solving games, the latter is just unfun

[Geyde]

TARGET	VOTES	VOTERS
GoalkeeperBoss	10	REM Litten ash4fun IronicDeadBird Valerie Squirrel2412 Marshal Zone_Q11 Scout6088/quarky Alison
quin	4	Arete EricKline Nibio Ari_2412
Not Voting	3	Bepwei gellnick NuclearBurrito
Valerie	1	quin
EricKline	1	Deadbananas
Marshal	1	GoalkeeperBoss

Icibalus (9): Marshal, ash4fun, REM, IronicDeadBird, Chemist1422, deadbananas, Wisp, Arete, bepwei
deadbananas (6): TotallyNotKyubey, Icibalus, Ari_2412, Quin, Valerie, Geyde
IronicDeadBird (1): EricKline

Icibalus was a wagon that lasted for most of d2, but was most heavily contested by deadbananas (other significant wagons that popped up were against bepwei and against IDB)
I’m almost certain that the entire deadbananas wagon is pure

Notably Marshal and Ash tried to pull people back onto the Ici wagon near EoD after bananas became largest one
So yeah, that wagon looks mega impure

Marshal - Stayed on for entire day, calling CW scumcore and vice versa for Ici voters
Ash - On and off, but stayed on for a large part of day
REM - Votes on Marshal with very little explanation. (not related to votes but might be important) stated that they didn’t have a clue who scum could be as a reply to me saying a similar thing. Will recheck play to see if matches up. Sheeps Arete’s logic onto Ici and sticks until EoD. 1098 / 1106 are mildly important posts.
IDB - Went on Bep after Zone provoked him to vote someone, then went onto Ari when provoked by Valerie to switch. Then goes onto Marshal because they haven’t been having high activity. Rest of play is marked by being drunk, and sheeps a vote onto Icibalus by request from Marshal after putting his vote out for free
Chemist - Sheep votes on Ici when told to vote (despite giving them a light townlean earlier)
Deadbananas - Self pres vote on Ici. Voted on Ari with Wisp and brings some questionable logic. Becomes main wagon for a bit then gets saved by a CFD back onto Ici (provoked by Marshal / Ash iirc)
Wisp - Will handle slot later. It’s a lot of work since high activity
Arete - Same as wisp
Bep - Sheeps onto Ici

[Geyde]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

That was a lot of work

[Wisp (Kyle)]

@Geyde
that was a lot of work? excuse me?

[Geyde]

Mobile

[Wisp (Kyle)]

there is barely any conclusions? its literally useless

[Geyde]

I was writing down vote patterns for all the voters on the wagon
Useful in order to not have to check back every 3 seconds when trying to make a conclusion

[Arete]

…ete’s logic onto Ici and sticks until EoD. 1098 / 1106 are mildly important posts.
IDB - Went on Bep after Zone provoked him to vote someone, then went onto Ari when provoked by Valerie to switch. Then goes onto Marshal because they haven’t been having high activity. Rest of play is marked by being drunk, and sheeps a vote onto Icibalus by request from Marshal after putting his vote out for free
Chemist - Sheep votes on Ici when told to vote (despite giving them a light townlean earlier)
Deadbananas - Self pres vote on Ici. Voted on Ari with Wisp and brings some questionable logic. Becomes main wagon for a bit then gets saved by a CFD back onto Ici (provoked by Marshal / Ash iirc)
Wisp - Will handle slot later. It’s a lot of work since high activity
Arete - Same as wisp
Bep - Sheeps onto Ici

Ash claims to have basically redchecked Wisp in cycle 1

does this in any way affect your analysis

[Geyde]

I skimmed through and saw that
I’m still mulling it over

Plus I haven’t really made a deep dive into where I think scum are on the wagon

[Wisp (Kyle)]

TARGET	VOTES	VOTERS
GoalkeeperBoss	10	REM Litten ash4fun IronicDeadBird Valerie Squirrel2412 Marshal Zone_Q11 Scout6088/quarky Alison
quin	4	Arete EricKline Nibio Ari_2412
Not Voting	3	Bepwei gellnick NuclearBurrito
Valerie	1	quin
EricKline	1	Deadbananas
Marshal	1	GoalkeeperBoss

edit: missed a person
edit 2: missed another

[Arete]

gellnick

this is green as well (since it’s Ici)

[Wisp (Kyle)]

Bepwei is high likely to be town

[Arete]

I have to get up early tomorrow and I’m not having coherent thoughts at this point anyway

good night everyone

[Wisp (Kyle)]

TARGET	VOTES	VOTERS
GoalkeeperBoss	10	REM Litten ash4fun IronicDeadBird Valerie Squirrel2412 Marshal Zone_Q11 Scout6088/quarky Alison
quin	4	Arete EricKline Nibio Ari_2412
Not Voting	3	Bepwei gellnick NuclearBurrito
Valerie	1	quin
EricKline	1	Deadbananas
Marshal	1	GoalkeeperBoss

[Geyde]

IDB Posts

No they sound like a loser…
The person that would is dead. Litten asked if this was my first mafia game (my response was no but it’s my first closed setup) and thought I was townread for being “pure”.
I originally voted Operator Chan after Marshall, GKB then subbed in for operator chan an I switched off to the other big wagon, but then when presented with the “I can take dead people” logic I jumped back onto gkb. Uhhh yeah anything else?

Realistically having this cord pulled on this game and moving it killed a lot of momentum. There is so little pressure despite closing in less then a day.

Marshall was the first vote on what became GKB and made the comment when voting “lets see what this does” or something along those lins
Scout is the hydra that didn’t talk I thought someone said they knew flavor but I can’t find it.
God this is not an optimal way to scan through things.

Does it make sense that Val isn’t voting?

Val’s been hesitant to share info about ability, what are the odds the current vote list is also vals target list. Astronomically small right?

Can you explain that to someone who has been sipping on cheap booze for a couple hours…

That’s the second time you’ve said that isn’t it? I’m not tracking things as well as I think I am. I’m going to download everything to my phone so I can jump between things a bit more easily take another look and call it a night.

YO someone brought this up before I don’t remember who and I’m on mobile so finding it will take time.
However.
Does it make a difference that I voted operator chan and then switched to EricKline, and then operator chan was replaced by GKB?
I distinctly remember the person before GKB saying some weird cryptic stuff early on. I’m currently on mobile so I can’t bring it up but I’m looking.

What do earlier witch claims refer to?

VOTE: Bewpei
How’s that

Its fascinating how differently people are perceiving information over here. I don’t think I’ve contributed anywhere near as much on CD for some reason over there I was given a town read or a pure read or something. Now I’m scum but I’m not following the logic of why when called out it’s been brushed over several times. It’s been stated that we lost a lot of pressure, but the only one I think (gut reaction) has had consistent views is zone… Eric was the central topic with his weird opening slip but now we have new eyes in he doesn’t matter.
Is there a command to bring up vote history?

I didn’t include you cause you’ve got to be town right?

Mildly important posts here ^^

Mostly out of spite yesterday when bepwei and bananas were the top two wagons I chose the one that voted for me.
Oh you guys familiar with the Monty hall effect? Someone give me two more options to vote.

I mean, the wagon seems to think otherwise.

Excuse my hesitance but there was logic in play last time I jumped wagons.

I mean I’m trying to decide because the person I voted just said something about their power draining and won’t further elaborate.

Banana just dipped out sooooooo…
VOTE: Ari_2412
@Ari_2412 I’m voting for you Ooga booga boo! What say you…

@Wisp changed my mind this place does actual long islands.
So the person with the gun says don’t meta but everyone’s doing it. You guys are crazy. Anyway, I’m going to go research game balancing and try to compile something useful from my phone.

At the time bananas said he left so poking him wouldn’t provide a response and has enough on him that my one vote doesn’t matter (I think new player how game)
@Wisp aris response was boring who were the other wagons you suggested?

@Wisp it was marshall…
VOTE: Marshal
@Marshal
How are you dealing with the momentum and pressure loss this games migration caused? As a new player if I had a hard read on someone (when we left CD it was EK) I found all the pressure and case I built against him in my head vanished. He was acting real weird imo but like all other newer information has just over ridden it… Should I vote EK tomorrow, or should I pursue the new threads that have appeared in hopes of unraveling this.

Shit that was long maybe I should switch to margaritas…

In order
@ash4fun the only other game of forum mafia I played with Eric and he hella got defensive over votes as opposed to now where he’s nowhere to be seen. Players evolve and change though.
@everyoneaskingwhymarshal
See post 1028
4th long island AMA

Cool take the hate out of this and remember to stay logical. we gonna spock our way through this. It wasn’t random I’ve played exactly one game with him before and he was town and this is NOT how he played. Isn’t that meta? Or do i need to to to the wiki again.

[quote=“IronicDeadBird, post:1190, topic:3581”]

YO MASONS has your chat gotten bigger?

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Slot yesterday was almost entirely explaining themselves, IIoA, and voting players with very little reasoning behind them (was asked to do so sometimes but eh)
What he ends up doing is adding to thread in ‘helpful’ ways but not doing the things that would actually help town. But for his talk of the thread being less dynamic, he doesn’t do anything to change that and instead basically exists in thread.

It seems like they’re coasting off of being townread early, which is kind of where I think scum are at atp since the vast majority of activity can be consolidated into three players

Lean scum

[Geyde]

@Wisp
I think you mentioned that you thought deadbananas was town after flips earlier

Why is that the case from your POV?
Their self pres onto Ici was very performative and self aware for all intents and purposes

[Wisp (Kyle)]

Icibalus (10): Marshal, ash4fun, REM, IronicDeadBird, Chemist1422, deadbananas, Wisp, Arete, bepwei, Valerie
deadbananas (5): TotallyNotKyubey, icibalus, Ari_2412, Quin, Geyde
IronicDeadBird (1): EricKline

ya there is no way that I believe that dead bananas wagon is all pure
@EricKline
your vote is actually garbage lol, and you did not give a damn about either of those wagons
and coicendently both your stronger town reads were killed…

Ici waggon looks more town.

My town core: rem, ash, arete, bep, Valerie (begrudgingly), Eric

Stronger town:
Kyubey, Ari,

[Wisp (Kyle)]

The wolves did not care about either of those wagons, and the vote movements between both are town
Valerie/Me/Bep

its not definite, but I dont trust you at all, your reads are shallow as all hell, and based on wagonomics, one of either you or quin has to be a wolf