[Game Thread] SFM1 - Puella Magi Forum★Mafia: Rebellion

ActionDan here. I’m going to give a brief overview of my thoughts which concern just what’s been posted on the Mafia451 forum. My partner has been going over the CD side of things so they may have supplementary material that includes a broader context.

I have townreads of various degrees on Arete/Bepwei/Quin/Eric/Icibalus/Wisp/Geyde with Valerie being plain town.

I am tempted to include Marshall in there for his emphatic defense of Quin but that’s also the only thing that was not NAI in his posting as far as I can tell.

As for Quin, I am missing the context of how the votes played out “N1” near deadline but if you are scum with a town counterwagon at around 7-8/11 votes… you will find a way to vote your CW. Whether you think its gamethrowing or not (And I for one don’t), not voting your CW in that situation is not something town and scum do equally often. Secondly, Quin’s posts today look quite town to me.

I did look at the Bepwei green check message via the end of day/night links in the OP. That obviously can’t be taken seriously. Bepwei’s tone today and his reponses to pressure read town to me regardless. The only 2 questions I have is why he thinks there’s some mechanical anti-claim thing in this game (which I understand multiple people questioned but I don’t remember being addressed) and how he views people in his “town core” that aren’t presumably “lock town” like ash. Usually a town core is made of people that you and others in the town core can be very reasonably sure are all town with almost no room for doubt.

I would like the members of the “masonery” to confirm they are in fact in a masonery or a neighborhood, because the flavor that Arete provided isn’t conclusive to me. Just PM the mod if you’re unsure.

The rest of my townreads generally have displayed instances of critical thinking, tone, and scumhunting all within a townie’s parameters as far as I can tell.

I can’t say I outright scumread anyone, but I am wary of Zone and I do think Bananas’ vote on Ari was scummy.

Zone has a good amount of posts in the thread but I’ve yet to townread a one of them and I don’t see the questions in them go anywhere or really serve a scumhunting purpose. I admit I was colored pretty early with the first post directed at Sunbell because it was quite strange to see a question being posed to her about Eric along the lines of “well, why’s he not confirming the neighborhood?” as a response to “Hi, I’m sunbell!”. It felt like offloading shade.

As for Bananas vote, at its core, its over justified.

Even were that true about the propensity to take down big players, he’s not “getting arete” with a single vote and no support + plenty of people townread arete. It’s a very weak add on.

Additionally bananas hasn’t done anything else of note and my Hydra partner informed me that he hasn’t done anything in the CD thread either of importance aside from parking his vote.

I think this is a good place to start.

VOTE: deadbananas

morning, everybody

arete no offense but your posts read to me as super wrong
not wolfy
just wrong
i’m like 90% sure you’ve miscleared at least one wolf here

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and not in the villagery enough pile, I mean in your village core
it dosen’t sit right with me, but I can’t pinpoint why

i’m actually getting w vibes from wisp here, discuss

maybe it’s just me but I’ve read their posts post-scratch today and their posts seem mostly like a lot of brick walls, if that makes sense. wisp keeps encountering roadblocks on the way to resolving their reads, and then goes around to another one.

like look here
sure, it’s kind of resolving the game. but this thought never really goes anywhere, even if I do think it’s a good thought that’s worth thinking about

i think what i’m saying is that wisp’s play today is very underwhelming and i expect better from them
feels a bit like they’re kind of just coasting while talking about how dead the game is

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I can see it! I think he intentionally is holding himself back!

But I want to lynch in hydra/bananas/you/Ironic/bepwei first!

this is a reference, let me just explain that I’m referring to the site transplant as The Scratch and leaving it at that

pretty big agree (well, except on me being in the PoE, but you know)
my reasoning is that wisp is being unusually lacklustre mostly and that’s something that won’t continue if he’s a villager, so we can leave them. for now.

Because we have yet to find a cause to shade the hell out of someone so that they can get pushed up and get pressured.

FWIW I remember Icibalus saying he will claim his role if he gets pushed up.

Because we’re filled with either inactive or indecisive players who “can only TR people” and “don’t dare to push someone, because it might make them look scummy”.

I gave Alison a townlean as well, but Geyde’s not active enough for me to give him any form of evaluation. The only thing I’ve reacted from him is his initial post, but according to himself, that post was made pre-sub, so that won’t give me any alignment indication at all.

Good. That means that I am given the false hope to live through “D2”.

Wow. This guy really sounds like me.
Too bad that I don’t care about this.
I have yet to see him do anything aside from tunneling Arete, which is useless since he doesn’t think about evaluating everyone else, and he doesn’t push anyone to vote on Arete.
Ari is a null to me.

…hey. Now that I think about it, if MGs have safeclaims, wouldn’t that negate all arguments of “those who claims witch first are definitely town”?

good grief only a single post in 3 hours
okay that’ll at least make it easy to read the thread

i’ve read ash’s coming out as witch (very brave, we all appreciate you sharing this and we’re all proud of you for being comfortable with the fact you’re a villager) and it is definitely not villagery. it’s not wolfy. but it’s not villagery.

if it comes to it though my gut is telling me that ash is v
i just can’t really figure out why
so ignore me until i’ve interacted with him more (ie: at all)

@Chemist1422 you disappeared after posting this, mind brining your attention back around to this forum for a moment?

honestly this thread is so dead
i mean i don’t know what else I’d expect post-scratch
but not this

was that reference what I think it is

also hi ici

it’s a bold assumption I have enough attention to bring to this forum

it fucking is and I hate it
i just started subconciously thinking of the site transfer as the scratch
and now I can’t get it out

lol

10/10

anyway, the standard set of questions, who do you think should die today blah blah blah, hit me with some opinions no matter how basic and unfounded