Doesn’t really require day chat to see that I put cats at L-1 and Elli is going to hammer to save his own skin.
Right, but it’s certainly more damning of day chat exists, no? Like, without day chat there, Andres is banking on Elli dropping the hammer before anyone changes their mind. With day chat, Andres knows elli is around to drop the hammer.
If day chat exists, Andres is pretty likely to be mafia. If it doesn’t, this could be damning…or it could be a coincidence.
Andres votes for Nanook while we were waiting for a possible (albeit unlikely) investigative result from Srceen in possible (albeit unlikely) lylo. With the ninja flip, it’d make sense that scum knows that there is probably not any investigative role other than the tracker.
Kinda farfetched tho 
their votes were literally seconds apart fyi
yo andres you literally never mention suspicion of elli before this post so why do you say “still”
This was directed at catspurr, 11 minutes before he did the vote => unvote => vote on Elli. Considering the choices were between cats and Elli, doesn’t make a lot of sense to unvote Elli if the only other guy is someone you’re “damn sure” about not voting.
I’ll explain why I unvoted since you and Nanook seem concerned about it. I just got nervous. That’s it. I was never voting for Cats - I had said as much, even under pressure from Erika, Elli and Srceen. So it’s not like there was ever another choice in my head. I just wasn’t sure if my read was right and I doubted myself. I would have voted for Elli regardless. I mean, if you read all of my posts up until that point, you know I’m not contributing to the lynch on Cats there. So… my vote is never the decisive one there. Yours is though.
If you had voted for Elli instead of Cats, I would have then hammered Elli. It’s that simple.
Also, given what was happening and how quickly that day was developing, I don’t think I read every post before the lynch was a certainty. I remember it feeling quite chaotic actually (just look at my word salad post).
I don’t know, if I’m trying to avoid lynching my Scum partner, then I would probably make my choice between Cats and Elli a bit more ambiguous, so I can cover my ass later. There was no covering my ass if I vote for Cats there.
I’ll pull up my posts doubting Elli once I get to a computer. It’s a bit revisionist history to say that that was the first time I doubted Elli though.
Yeah, I’m aware. That’s why I’m having trouble saying it’s definitive without knowing if they have day chat. If scum have day chat, that’s very possible—if they don’t, it tilts more towards being a coincidence, I think.
Also, fwiw, Andres I’m much more interested in seeing scumhunting today than I am defending. I know that’s easier said than done sometimes when there are cases against you, but if you are town…you need to help us find the real scum more than you need to survive, if that makes sense.
I am not trying to be a smart ass, I promise, but if we mislynch, we also lose. I suppose it is important that we do both - Scumhunt but also clarify where needed.
I am back on a computer so I can actually do what I said I would do (though I might also fall asleep, so no promises!).
Right, but for town…you don’t have to just not get mislynched, cause even if you do that you still have a 2/3 chance of losing. So as town in LYLO/MYLO, it’s not just about not getting lynched, it’s about finding scum—it’s more important to spend time trying to find the scum than it is defending yourself, cause finding scum wins the game, defending yourself doesn’t, not for town. The best defense is a good offense, basically.
I am going to say upfront, that I think you are right about this - I think my focus has been too narrow. You do have to keep in mind that I have been Scumreading you for a while, and you have been trying to argue with me non-stop (about Cats’ claim, about strategy…) while also calling me a twat. However, I might have lost a little bit of the bigger picture, so I apologize for that. I am not saying any of this changes my position, but had circumstances been different, I might have missed Elli completely.
Your point about Srceenplay is very interesting, and funny enough I agree, but there’s another viewpoint to consider. I agree that Elli and Srceen could have tried to “bait me” into voting for you (and it probably would have worked, assuming that you are Town). The only caveat I have is that Elli at that stage was on everybody’s radar (especially after narrowly escaping the lynch while hammering Town, after having helped lynch Mylo who was also Town…). So, if Srceenplay and Elli both vote for you (while appearing to agree, otherwise it would immediately raise a lot of questions), and I don’t vote for you (say by arguing that lynching Elli is still the much safer option), and assuming nobody hammers, then we have figured out the Scum Team right there. I also think it would have looked a bit funny of Srceenplay to agree voting for you together with Elli with the game on the line, when Srceenplay had avoided lynching Town the day before by voting for Elli. It could have backfired, that’s all, whereas now I do not really see anybody arguing that Srceenplay is Scum. You might also remember that Srceenplay did vote for you for a short period of time before fixing his vote on Elli (this is how I remember it I have to check). It might not have been long enough to do any damage, but that vote did occur.
My caveat is a bit paranoid though. Most likely, what you describe is exactly what’s going on.
Did screen put a vote on me yesterday? I’d have to look at the context, but if he did…that would open some possibility of a screen/Elli team. I still tend to think that team pushes harder towards a Nanook mislynch yesterday, but it’s something I should look at anyways.
The rest I’ll address later, when I’m not on my phone!
Yeah he misspelled your name haha but that did occur:
Anyway I’ll be back later.
I miss spell everything. Most of the time the point comes across.
VOTE: Nolynch
VOTE: No Lynch
I was going to address other points but it can wait. Let’s just end the day.
VOTE: No Lynch
Haha unless I can’t that is. Bah it was just about the Elli question from Urist. Let’s see what happens.
For the record, I’m annoyed that we ended the day so quickly—there’s no harm in doing some work then no lynching, it just gives us some extra time to get it right.