Flip Flappers Mafia [TOWN WIN]

Are you reading Urist as Scum or Town?

This is a good question. After this discussion, my lean is decidedly negative and I would vote for Urist to be lynched if it came down to it. I’m still trying to figure out in my head what Town motivation someone could have to vote against someone they have defended forcefully, while a short time later voting against that very person by arguing that any lynch is better than no lynch.

I have to still re-read Mylo, form an opinion, and see what I think about the new and improved Val. But I find that last gasp vote against Val to be a horrendous decision from a Town point of view.

Well, unless you are scum, you can’t know for sure whether someone is town or scum.
And there are times when it is better to lynch town to remove the wifom.

Anyway, Urist was Jailed by me last night.
Three scum? Would scum have to nominate the player for the kill?
Would they nominate the highest profile player at that time to do the kill?
Probably not.

Would a scum player hammer the player they have been defending as town?
Day One probably not, Day two may be.

Look, I just don’t get it. I really don’t. Removing people you view as Town to reduce “ambiguity” as a strategy makes no sense to me. You are handing a massive advantage to the Scum Team if that’s what you are advocating for, unless you can clearly articulate who is doing what and why. Think about it, as time goes on, the ambiguity within the game will naturally decline. You don’t need to force mislynches against people that you think are Town to have that happen. And you know, it’s not like Val was L-1. There weren’t nearly enough people voting for Val at that stage to produce a lynch. So this isn’t a hammer close to the deadline we’re talking about here. We’re talking about a third vote when 6 were needed against someone Urist was arguing is Town. And Urist moved from a player that had more votes. It’s nonsensical.

So did you jail because you thought they where most likely to be kind or they were most likely to kill?

FTFY
We’re they more likely to be killed or more likely to do the killing?

Omg. I give up.

Good question, that I don’t have a good answer for.
Probably 50/50

Because of their high profile for the day they could be the target.
But then, they subbed into a slot that was looking scummy, so they could have been the night killer.

I do struggle with all this subbing in and out and people not being involved in the game.

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Seems like if you jail somebody you should have an idea why you’re jailing them.

@Myloninja13

Well, I thought the idea that it was either protecting them OR stopping the kill was a good enough idea.

So in your mind, urist was just as likely to be scum as he was to be NKed?

I don’t kid myself I know anyones alignment.
Urist took over a slot that had looked very scummy.
He has played exactly the same as he did in the one other game I have played with him where he ws also a replacement. In that game he was town.

I don’t know if he is town or scum.
From his play style and arguments he looks town to me.
Is he town?
He could play scum exactly the same way for all I know so it is 50/50

Another player I am very 50/50 on is Elwood.
He looks like town, but his posts are confusing, and his tunnel tracking could be scum tactics.

@Nanook are you scum?
I thought so, and then Urist pointed out some of your posts that just make more sense as town posts.
The posts themselves don’t make much sense.
But they probably make more sense as stumbling town, than stumbling scum.
However, scum can stumble as much as town.
So? you are 50/50

That isn’t really the question, though. You’re a jail keeper, and from the way you’re talking about it I take it that your role can stop your target from being killed or killing. So, your target should be either someone you think is scum, or someone you think is likely to be NKed, right?

I’m certain that if we don’t get any lynches, we won’t even have the opportunity to try to pinpoint who was wrong and who was scum, let alone trying to do it correctly.

I was merely using Elwood as an example as to why nolynch is badlynch.
Elwood might be scum. I have no idea, because we don’t know Val’s alignment. Do you disagree that we would have better insight into Elwood’s alignment today if Val had been lynched yesterday?

Sorry to burst your bubble but that votecount is wildly incorrect. You should know because you were on the Val wagon yesterday. So was Myloninja.

Fake.