Let’s now hit on the point you attempted to make saying that my switch to Mantis was solely based on her not answering my question, (which is false), and how not answering a question isn’t a scum tell.
Live thread gameplay is a real indication of scum if you know how to play it correctly. When someone is being pressured to give their reads in real time and being asked questions and starting to seemed rattled by pressure, and then is asked a direct question about their reads and avoids answering the question when they are clearly still in the thread, that is 100% a possible scum tell.
I really don’t understand this push you’re making on me Urist, as none of it is based in factual logic and is kinda shit you’re just making up out of thin air.
I voted you in RVS. RVS!! Skitters picked it up and ran with it, and pressured me on it. You joined in with skitter on that (not questioning her motives). At some point I said that I was fine with keeping my vote on you. So it turned into more of a serious vote.
The fact that you and skitter’s seemed to be blindly reading each other as town (with skitter saying things like DS’s reaction is “very” town) - made me think that you guys were teamed. I said it right there, at the time we were all posting.
At some point, I start reconsidering and then again, I thought your reaction to Erika - just came out of nowhere, and looked more like a town thing to exclaim.
Urist is good at this game, and has good reads, I think. So when he continued on with the idea that maybe you are skitter’s are teamed (or at the very least, that there could be 1 scum there (skitters)) - then I reconsidered that maybe feeling that you 2 were teamed, was not so far off.
When you say things like “Mantis’s horrible push”, and previously, “your vote on me is really bad” - it seems a bit too dramatic, on your part.
And as said, where do you see me pushing and insisting you are scum.
But you said HORRIBLE PUSH as if I was making a big stink out of it. I literally said that pretty casually actually. A horrible push is insisting you are scum and trying to get other people to vote for you. I didn’t do any of that at all.
It was 1 freaking vote on you. And ya it was a ‘push’ because that’s what votes are.
I still can’t get over the fact that, as supposed town, you are not stepping back to ask yourself what skitter’s motives could be there. She acted like she knew you were town and that I was such scum for pushing on you. I know you had said earlier:
So I don’t know what happened to that. You sort of dropped it. But why did skitter’s make such a big thing out of the RVS vote. And, Erika mentioned before - that a lot of times, scum will jokingly claim. It’s like this thing where they feel the need to do it more. That’s why it initially caught my attention. But it was never a vote due to me ‘believing’ your claim. That’s pretty fucking dumb.
I guess I misread somewhere, cuz I can’t find the first instance I thought I saw (I wrote the post in a hurry before work). You said in one place that Mantis’s recent posts looked like frustrated town, in #367.
What I still want to know is
a) Why Neymar got PoE’d instead of the other two nulls
b) Why you have Mantis and Erika as PoE when you’ve called them scummy.
Nah I said horrible push because your logic is flawed and I know I’m town so it’s a horrible push. If you had good logic, or if you weren’t constantly backtracking your own thoughts then maybe I wouldn’t say it was a horrible push.
I never tried to use logic to push you!!! God, this is frustrating. I voted you in RVS then idly decided I would keep my vote there, because I had a few others done as more town. Then we got into a back and forth where I was defending myself. But no where in that back and forth did I insist you were scum. In fact I unvoted you because I was reconsidering my position!!! You know. Something that town does. Something that is hard to do for scum.
scum uses terms like “horrible push” and “your vote on me is so bad” to make the other person sound worse. I reconsidered that you were town, but have to say, the more I speak to you, and even go back to the irl posts. The more I think you could actually be scum
Okay well actually I did eventually say that I thought you and skitters were teamed. But I don’t think that is insistence. And I think I had a decent reason for eventually thinking that you 2 might be teamed - in the way of you not questioning each other at all. And as said, with skitter’s saying things like how “very”
town your reaction was. Like, come on.
I know that she was voting for you. And I know that you were talking about Mantis’s lack of reads progression. My point is that in your vote post, you didn’t mention these things, you mentioned a thing that isn’t really a scumtell imo. It looked like you were reaching for an excuse to vote for Mantis. I’ll concede that I can see why you’d think that it’s a scumtell, so maybe I need to reevaluate my read of you. But I think you overvalue that tell. I personally selectively respond to stuff all the time, especially if I need to think about a question before answering.
tl;dr: I didn’t think that you voted Mantis solely for not responding to a question, I thought you were looking for an excuse to vote Mantis and that the excuse you found was a shitty one.
At the time, I said it was the lack of questioning on both DS and skitter’s part, that made me think possibly teamed. And at this point, this:
Remember Andres in your flapper game? Him spinning the narrative to make others sound worse off than they are? That’s what these kinds of things remind me of.