well i mean you’re claiming masons
if you’re scum it has to be with actiondan and vice versa
masons literally means, by definiton, that they’re conftown to each other and they’re claiming masons
no, neither of you are getting lynched today; the correct way to resolve the paranoia is through the jk if that’s what we decide, but lynching you/andres is incredibly dumb
there aren’t even enough votes to lynch you today (me/you/andres and presumably mylo won’t) unless urist uses the doublevote
i really see no reasons why masons can’t be bp and have vig shots
i mean it’s op as anything and weird in the setup but like it doesn’t inherently contradict anything for a mason to have another ability
masons literally means they’re confirmed town to each other; that’s what masons means
i don’t think actiondan at least would be calling him/andres masons unless he meant exactly that
again, we talked about this; i think it’s entirely possible for a mason to have to find thier partner
instead of thinking about calling them masons, think about calling them ‘modified masons’, where modified is ‘searching bulletproof 1s vig’
like it’s a weird role but nothing there is inhrently problematic or contradictory
mason also Usually literally have no powers outside of mason confirmed town.
Then ActionDan says, meta is silly use roles .
I have played in a game where to scum claimed to be masons and won the game.
I have also played in games where one of the two on the board have sworn blind their partner must be town and they turned out they were not.
Anyway, alright, if we are not lynching ActionDan or Andre, I can’t see us lynching Skitter or Mylon, that leaves:-
Srceenplay
Urist
Nanook
Cats to lynch from.
like you’re claiming a 1s public cop
your argument against the masons is basically the same as me going:
- cops can usually check each night. it’s suspicious that you can check only once
- cops usually get their results from the mod and not in public
therefore i’m paranoid of you and think you might be scum
No it is not.
Which is my point, there is no contradicition in one of them being scum.
If you admit all those modifications it is not a big step to the one where they are on different sides.
yes, it is
masons literally mean ‘confirmed town to each other’
the rest of it doesn’t affect that
give me one sec; i’m looking for a game
I agree my role seems to be the weakest.
But if some roles were not one shot, what is the point of Mylon being able to give shots back.
you realize i’m not actually questioning your role rn, right?
that that was a rhetorical point
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=76530
ascetic mason (in the op, look under the ‘dead’ players spoiler)
like the ‘ascetic’ doesn’t affect the mason
i def remember seeing tracker mason recently to demonstrate my point but i need to find it
We are arguing mechanics when the mechanics of this game are stretched to breaking point as Srceenplay claimed when he was PMed that his neighbourising/immunising role was reduced to one shot.
it’s not broken, that just means the mod made a mistake; those are not at all the same thing; i don’t think the game was ‘stretched to the breaking point’
if he made a mistake calling them masons if they wren’t i’m sure it would have been corrected by now
You don’t have to prove your point skitter.
I understand perfectly what you are saying.
You are saying the role can be stretched any which way but it must always remain town.
And it is that point I am disagreeing with.
AD role may say he is a Mason and has access to the Mason board.
And Sndres role my say you are scum but you can respond to the call out from the Mason as if you are a mason.
Also they both could be scum and just using the word mason for exactly the reason you are arguing.
honestly i’d prefer to think that the game isn’t like bastard and that masons are just masons (or scum claiming masons)
i see no reason to believe we’re living in a game where the mod would make a townie masons with scum
Good, now you have given me a reason I can accept.
You prefer to think the mod is not fucking with us.
Which brings up the question of the Real Life couple Urist and Mantis being linked by, the death of one, to get the powers for the other.
We now know Mantis/Red were Town.
What do we think of Urist?
Gotta go, running late.
Will be back.
ok, to rephrase:
i would like to think the mod wouldn’t lie about roles
it’s apparent he’s fine with fucking people in other ways tho
urist’s interactions with mantis’ slot were town imo
also your suspicion basically boils down to: the mod may be lying about the definition of the role
and like why are you even considering this to be a thing?