Yes, well, that’s what I get for thinking you’d do something that makes any sense, apparently.
Struggling a bit with that. I still like my cats read more, cause I’m not sure how much of a screen vote is a “fuck you for doing something that doesn’t make sense” vote, but he’s on my lynch radar.
andres stance on cats/screenplay has multiple holes: how can he be only focused on the screenplay claim and say cats is likely village then suddenly remember cats has been playing wolfy without considering it first, and why does he imply screenplay would be a wolf if he was lying, and then go on to say he has seen screenplay lie before about his claim as village.
Expectations
Hmm
It has holes because… this is D1, and I’m trying to figure out what I think. I didn’t “forget”. First, I worked through the implications of the claim and initially took it at face value (#249), which led me to the conclusion that Cats was Town. However, I later decided the Claim was probably false, worked through my view of Cats’ posts (#261), casted a vote on Cats (#285), received some responses from Cats that made me question my view, unvoted (#327), and will now make up my mind about where I ultimately land after working through the posts once more.
When did I imply that Srceenplay would be wolf if he is lying? I plainly stated that I had a negative lean on him because I am skeptical of his claim (#332). However, I have seen Srceenplay gambit before as Town, so the lie itself doesn’t necessarily mean that he is Scum (Urist referenced the game, feel free to look). However, I made a distinction about the feel of the gambit, which justifies my negative lean (#334). Do you… read anything I write? Or are you just convinced I am Scum because I made a joke on the second post? Do you really think that I, as Scum, would be bad enough to reveal us as partners that quickly? It’s mildly insulting, frankly.
If you need a step by step description of the joke, here it is: I know I’m Town. I don’t know Cats’ alignment. I try calming him down because we just had a game were I was able to deceive him into thinking I was Town when in fact, I was Scum. However, the calming statement doesn’t work if he’s Scum. Because (i) he would already know my alignment, and (ii) we very obviously wouldn’t be on the same side. Why don’t you try and make an argument that isn’t overly focused on a joke? Or completely misrepresents how I arrived where I did?
Given your Miller claim, I am trying really hard to get you to help Town and look past me. If you can’t, it is what it is, but you will forgive me if I ignore most of what you say.
I am going to ISO Cats, Nanook and Mantis next, and work through what I see.
@Mantis
More posting please.
@Metal Sonic.
Last time I voted you, you turned up then disappeared again.
I kinda want you to be town but you have to put more effort in.
Maybe this will ginger you up?
VOTE; METAL SONIC.
And if you were a horse you know what they do with ginger?
Have you said anything about nanook?
If so, sorry I missed it.
What do you think of them this game?
VC 1-13
catspurr: 3 (Nanook, ActionDan, skitter30)
Nanook: 2 (srceenplay)
Urist: 2 (Metal Sonic, Josh)
AFKD: 1 (Urist)
Andresvmb: 1 (parsec)
MetalSonic: 1 (catspurr)
Not voting: 3 (AKFD, _fferyllt, Andresvmb)
With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.
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urist, Andre, srceenplay and parsec town pile
akfd inexpereinced town pile
_fferyllt , ActionDan, skitter slight town
Mantis neutral probably because she is not seeing me as scummy, we have played together a lot and she always sees me as scummy. I haven’t ISO’d her yet though.
Josh in the unsorted pile with
Metal Sonic worrying me and Nanook who I always see as scummy.
My current vote on Metalsonic is trying to get them to participate.
sorry, been lazy busy. will actually read through the game in approximately 8 hours.
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Can you expand on what you meant by this when you finish reading?
ym
Quick thoughts on Mantis:
Mantis seems to be defending lurking as a Town strategy here - from the conversations I have seen, lurking is frowned upon largely because it does not help the Town discern your alignment (or understand where you are coming from). I see it mostly described as a defensive strategy that hurts Town. This is interesting purely from a mindset point of view, but is not AI. I would just make a note that by and large the reaction you are going to get is probably a negative one, which might not be all that helpful.
A chunk of Mantis’ posts are directed at Urist, who he seems to trust. There’s also a question to Srceenplay (largely in line with what Nanook was arguing was a Scum Slip, but ultimately reaching the opposite conclusion). The discussion with Urist is about AKFD’s alignment (leading to a vote on #201), and about my gameplay (which ended in a joke about a spider’s web [I actually laughed at this]).
Up until a day ago, Mantis seemed to have a slight Town lean on Cats. @Mantis has this changed for you at all? I also see that you have a negative lean on Metal Sonic - given the lack of posts from MS, I take it that this has not changed?
The vote on AKFD appears to have been a pressure vote, which seems to have cleared AKFD since Mantis ultimately Unvoted:
Overall, positive lean on Mantis (scum hunting seems genuine, and I do not find anything objectionable here).
“I always see this player as scummy even when they aren’t” is the laziest possible cop out of a read.
No I don’t
Same as this guy
I don’t know. Because maybe his inexperience is a reason for why he looks to be talking a little randomly
Hi @Andresvmb
I’m not so much defending lurking as town, but just saying that I could see people saying that they’re going to lurk to draw out reactions.
Urist is my bff! 
I’m not sure if I trust Urist fully. I did like that he answered with AFKD as looking like he might be talking for the sake of talking, since that also occurred to me, so I will say I am leaning town there.
Not really necessarily leaning town on cats though. I’m pretty null there to be honest. I do think the MS thing was a decent thing to comment on (where MS said he town read _ffery and _ffery said it was hmm). But cats is a tricky player and I definitely wouldn’t hand out a town read just yet! Would need to read a lot more. In fact I still have to catch up on a large chunk.
As for MS, yes a questionable lean there.
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