Flipping ffery has three outcomes:
A) Scum and we win
B) Non-Blank vig and we’re back to square one
C) Blank vig and you’re confirmed town.
Option C is the only one where you’re likely to be nightkilled, as having a confirmed townie in final 3 is not good for scum.
gotta agree with this one I just sent a message to the gm regarding this to see if bomb also dies as well as if a blank vigi shooting a bomb if the blank dies just to confirm hopefully I get definite answers to those and we will see…
however in your plan mylo (it was prob touched upon but I haven’t got that far yet) all mafia would have to do is shoot u and they win…
It says in the set-up page that: “Bomb will kill any player who successfully shoots it at night (unless protected by a Doctor action). A Bomb cannot be roleblocked.”
Which means a blank vig wouldn’t work.
But regardless, my plan wouldn’t work because of the bomb killing itself while being attacked.
Oh, and if we lynch Muffins and they are non-blank vig, what would you think going forward?
now your just putting words in my moth sir/maam I never once requested nor asked to be confirmed town I just gave my general scum read thought that’s it and I expected everyone else to also have their own thoughts and ideas as to who was scum and who was not or is that not the point of mafia?.. so before simply implying and assuming what I was saying you should probably have just asked weather I was clearing myself as town or not because my answer would have been no… I myself know I am town yes but there is no one (other then the gm) that does know that nor in a game like this could prove it in anyway…
that said I came out and forwarned everyone day 1 that my gameplay is odd and unlike any others which is why I also posted in the signup thread before role even came out that I was most likely going to be lynched day 1… nook and any other player from playdip would be able to say how extremely odd my gameplay actually is… so weather u like it or not my town play here is my town play nook has seem my scum play in forum (tho in resistence not mafia) and id think should be able to tell the difference by this point…
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(realistically, though, you should pretty much always vig N1 in this setup, i think.)[/quote]
no actually id go as far as to say im kinda irritated u and nook choose to shoot n1 as it actually gave us 1 less day to play here and less options in terms of lynch and no lynch so no I completely disagree with ur vig should shoot n1 concept… infact I would disagree with that statement weather I was town or scum because I feel its just foolish…
[quote="_fferyllt, post:387, topic:762"]
and i think he saw the two vig claims at the start of the day and jumped on what he thought was an easy angle. the fact that he was pushing suspicion based not on anything play-related but purely on the fact that two people claimed to have vig killed a town player seems like a mindset slip to me (because at least one of us HAS to be town so it clearly wasn’t a scum-motivated idea)[/quote]
also no there is no such thing as a mindset slip its either an actual slip or its not period… me going into day 2 not shooting as a vig is purely a logical smart stand point for more time and more info nothing else…
I really wanna slap u upside the head and call u an idiot I really want you to know that… that quote you quoted is bullshit and you know it because I also pushed it on nook being a rogue vigi as well not just yourself…
if he does get lynched and turns out to be a non blank vig it means nothing as nanook (assuming he is town) could also be a non blank vig so the relevance in this question is zero… only way this question makes sense is if _fferyllt comes up as a blank vig which town confirms him auto… in that scenario clearly regardless of who would be scum out of me you and GB nanook would get killed off plain and simple which would ultimately incriminate me as well as the last vig claim and even tho im well aware im vig you two do not… now if _fferyllt came up as blank vig and nook is alive tomorrow nook is the last scum by default cuz no scum in their right mind would leave a confirmed townie on the last day of the game…
to make it extremely simple for all of you since _fferyllt wants to put words in my mouth and make me words his own lets just lynch me and call it a day just kill his pony ass tomorrow…
VOTE: dwiltse1114
Woah! Slow down there buddy!
I have to sleep now, but we’ll sort this out!
also not indulging _fferyllt anymore because his nonsensical gameplay and look at the game weather as scum here or town here pisses me off beyond reason so any questions and or statements from him or directed towards him will not be indulged by me
(not sure if ive said it before or not) but mylo is not to be lynched today period if he is in fact SS and we hammer him and a town hammers him town loses… period so hes auto saved for tomorrow unless _fferyllt decides to kill him tonight…
Second half of the first paragraph pings me, anybody want to guess why?
pings town or scum? jc if ur gonna call it might as well completely call it
You know what, I’ll just spoil it. It pings me because a) it feels like setting up for tomorrow, which I dislike, and b) scum could conceivably decide to leave a cleared townNanook alive tomorrow and not kill anyone tonight–their odds of winning are still the same, and they can try to push the idea of “yeah, but scum would’ve killed Nanook if Nanook was town!”
So yeah, bad logic, and it reads somewhat as setting up for the next day.
Dwilts, if you’re town, stop throwing a hissy fit. If _fferyllt is scum, you’re doing exactly what they want you to. If they’re town then this isn’t productive for anyone. Either way, snap out of it. If you’re scum, fine do whatever you want, but if you’re town here you really need to stop with the hissy fit tantrum throwing theatrics.
fine ill remove my vote from myself but my statement still stands im having no interactions with the fool for the remainder of the game…
VOTE: unvote
and if its still needed to lynch me today so be it its w.e.
however I think your wrong in the sense because if I was lynched and _fferyllt decided not to kill and left u alive they couldn’t use that phrase as it would still be one of you and him even if he killed mylo it would still be u and him and if mylo was scum and killed _fferyllt id guess mylo scum and if he killed u id still assume _fferyllt is scum either way im 99% sure _fferyllt is scum
on more than one occasion (#330, #359) you’ve stated that if you were scum, you would have killed nanook instead of josh - you’re essentially implying that the night kill is one you wouldn’t have made therefore you can’t be scum… even if you aren’t outright trying to clear yourself, that’s the idea that you’re trying to plant into people’s heads. and, in general, that’s something that’s more likely to come from scum because they’ve put a lot of thought into who they want to kill and why and what they’ll say about it if it’s brought up
ok, but this makes no difference to the point i was making…
the point i was making was two-fold…
first, that you ignored any play-based reasons and called me scum for being a “rogue vigi”. if you were town, i would have expected you to say something like “oh, muffin’s play D1 bugged me because…” or something like that. instead you came out D2 and called me scum for nothing more than the “rogue vigi” thing. a town player should have been looking at who makes sense as a brass partner or who made the worst pushes or looking at whose votes were where and so on and so forth, but you ignored all this in favour of pushing the “rogue vigi” thing. which leads me to…
second, a “rogue vigi” is, BY DEFINITION, town. scum aren’t vigs. if i’m a vigilante, i can’t be scum, even if i “went rogue”. you could say you think i’m lying about the claim, but that’s not what you did. you tried to paint shooting a town player as scummy in and of itself. that’s an angle that doesn’t come from a town point of view, it’s an angle that comes from the point of view of someone who isn’t thinking like a town player and sees an easy angle to push
the fact that you also called nanook scum for it doesn’t matter to the point i was making. it just reinforces my guess that you aren’t thinking about it from a town perspective.
im on here almost all day and no one has nothing to add in 10 hr Is anyone on to try to do some real truthful scum hunting?
VC 2-4
_fferyllt: 1 (Nanook)
Not Voting: 4 (_fferyllt, Myloninja13, KatyushaGB, dwiltse1114)
With 5 alive it takes 3 to lynch.
Day 2 ends on June 18, 2018 1:00 AM (Europe: Paris), June 17, 2018 4:00 PM (America: Los Angeles)