So again, I’m disengaging with you. Interact with someone else so that I can get actual reads on them because otherwise we are just going to get into a 1v1 tunnel and if we are both town then we are going to lose the fucking game
i would if they were here lmao
I’m going to read this back and forth between the two of you in a bit, and then do some other reading on this site, but I re-read the entire game after the Day ended, and came to the conclusion that the Scum is between M2H and DS, and depending on whether I live or not, it would determine where I voted. I figured that if I was NK’ed, it would be DS, and if I wasn’t, and exactly Nuxl was NK’ed, it was more likely to be M2H. Interesting huh?
I had signaled that M2H was part of a Town core, so M2H NK’ing me wouldn’t make much sense. DS, on the other hand, would have and would never in this situation have NK’ed Nuxl. I was unhappy with my POE because I started TR Dan, and so I relooked at everything, and this is what I’ve arrived at.
I mean, M2H if you’re Town, I’m not seeing it. GTacc is literally the least likely person to have bussed Dusk, I am Town here for sure (you both agree and so does Dan so trying to argue differently now is ridiculous), Dan is probably Town, and I’m TR DS. So not that many choices.
I won’t signal where I would vote if somehow I survive tonight and M2H flips Town, but I have a strong suspicion it won’t be up to me since I am practically Confirmed Town here and all of you know it.
If you can truly read my iso, after seeing my scum game and seeing how I think during games, and think that my current play is scum!m2h then idk what to think man.
If I am not lock town, neither are you.
I don’t know where to stand on DS. GTacc seems to be actively lurking, and Dan has been towny but there’s a low sample size.
Also, Nuxl raised the specific point (and you can find it in his ISO) that M2H never voted D1. And so us all clearing him seems wrong.
@ActionDan, you tell me if I’m wrong. But I really don’t think so.
You trying to cast suspicion my way after how I’ve played this game doesn’t help you in my eyes. Even DS who is in a compromised position can see it.
I know why you’re doing it. But it’s clear as day that I’m Town.
And just so we’re clear, I did read your ISO. That’s exactly why I’ve arrived at this conclusion.
Here’s my notes:
#364.
#377, #378, #394 make me think that M2H is the Scum.
#465 - Nuxl’s call out here is valid.
#481 - M2H calling StarV kind of Townie.
#500 - Again skepticism towards the StarV lynch. Yet, still voted there.
If you want to appeal to authority as support for you being town, then I can do the same. You are literally the only person in the room who has scum read me. Dan and GTacc both have me on lock, and even though I’ve been antagonizing DS the entire game he still won’t call me scum which idk what to make of.
Not true. StarV also SR you. He’s not here. But you can also find it in his ISO.
Hey, I might be going crazy. Which is why I haven’t voted. But I’m serious, those are exactly my thoughts.
I went back and looked through the votes btw - I do think GTacc’s vote was a hammer on StarV. But that’s more of a technical thing - I still clearly voted for StarV.
Also, there’s two Scum in this game. So it’s not an appeal to authority to clearly signal 1. That I voted for the Scum, and was the key deciding vote between Chess and Dusk, and 2. I have played the game exactly how you expect me to if I was Town.
A bit of self-meta - I have yet to bus a teammate as Scum. Has anyone noticed? I don’t even know if anyone has picked up on this. In the what, north of 10 games I have played as Scum, I don’t think I have either early or openly voted for my Scum Partner and had them flip Scum. Go look it up.
The one situation where I tried to apply a distancing strategy as Scum (which did not require a vote but you could throw back at me that I did essentially bus) is a Matroshka game where I was the Scum with Elwood and DS was the doll maker. If you want to point to that, fine, then maybe that once. But a vote like here? Good luck finding an equivalent example.
Whatever. I don’t think I need to prove to anyone I’m Town this game.
Okay @GTacc, @ActionDan, @DS, tell me why I’m wrong.
I don’t think struggling to scum-hunt in this context is necessarily bad. I feel that everybody in the room has made been townie to some extent. In an end game scenario where everybody is feels towny, the game is going to be harder. I have been working hard to implement @Ellibereth’s advice into my town game which is essentially to not express things that I don’t have a high confidence on. If I don’t feel highly confident in something, I don’t express it. I don’t have a single high confidence scum read, and I didn’t at the time of #377 either. #378 isn’t even my post but if you’re referring to me having a wide POE, yeah I honestly don’t think you can blame me for having a hard time narrowing the game down further than that. I’ve been here and been actively trying to solve the game and if you can’t see that then I don’t know what to tell you.
#465 is such a weird post to call me out with because nuxl never pushed me for that reason. Despite the fact that I didn’t vote d1 (and ngl I thought I did), nuxl still had me as a reasonable strong town read. I honestly don’t understand your fixation with wagonomics this game.
#481 Yes. StarV was townie, in the same way that I feel everybody in the game is somewhat towny. I didn’t like the StarV vote there and wanted to shift it onto GTacc or Dan, but the votes weren’t there. I only ended up voting StarV because ties in this setup are always bad for town. Your behavior at eod was bad iirc because previously you put StarV as town but within his scum range, and the indecisiveness at deadline was just idk. It’s wack to shade me for voting StarV there when you also town read StarV and I was trying to shift the wagon off of him but we didn’t have the votes. I only hammered there to prevent any last second shenanigans which idk what kind of shenanigans could hammer but when you’re town eod fucks with your head like that sometimes.
I mean, it can’t be that because I have an opinion that’s changed that you are completely reversing this statement. Like your reaction to my suspicion is not coming from a Town mindset. So yeah, I think you’re a fairly reasonable vote.
Or it could be that you are validating my paranoia by making a push that town!you should know better than to make here.
Oh man. Okay. You’ve been chasing my vote for what, two days in a row now? How can you make this statement with a straight face?