11p White Flag (1, 6)

@Andresvmb if you wanna come in and be obvious town that would be super helpful, kthx

Actually you know what, nevermind, andresā€™ vote came way earlier and at a point he didnā€™t need to sheep onto a scum buddy. Andres welcome to the towncore.

Iā€™d say my hypothesis is that M2H was the one bussing if there was only one.

Although their trust list had StarV on the most bottom tier, they played the waiting game for a large portion of the day and didnā€™t proactively gun for their scumread that was dying. Waiting for other wagons to accrue? Their thoughts in general seem stilted to me. Not to mention that itā€™s quite common for scum players to post one town and one partner at the bottom of their list.

I know Iā€™m probably dead today and town is probably going to win regardless, Iā€™m just giving my thoughts may people deem them useful. Iā€™m still not married to the thought of Key being scum; if my case was that outlandish, scum player would see the writing on the wall and not even bother entertaining it by joining me on the wagon, especially when they were wagoning their partner which would look pretty pure if the lynch went through (Starā€™s lynch was clearly going to be a frontrunner on d1.)

VOTE: M2H

Hereā€™s to not being 100% wrong, I hope. Didnā€™t think I was that rusty.

Mhm. His reasoning for voting Star looked pretty pure. He didnā€™t really try to posture to gain town cred. Itā€™d be a more damning vote if Star flipped blue.

Yeah, I mean definitely put stuff out there if youā€™re town, itā€™s just hard not to see a world where at least one of you and key is scum based on how D1 went tbh.

Fwiw donā€™t think M2 is scum here.

My current hypothesis is two VT flips with you dying at night. Are you okay with the game continuing without you past that point?

So to recap town core is now Nanook/gtacc/Andres/tn with one of cavin/M2/Erika in there as the fifth. My inclination is Erika but Iā€™m keeping in mind chessā€™ cavin read too.

Yeah I mean I assume that Iā€™ll be NKed tonight if the gameā€™s still going. Thatā€™s why Iā€™m trying to solidify the towncore today, just in case it isnā€™t as easy as Engravings/key.

But yeah if you want to towncase key Iā€™ll give it a listen

Chessā€™ read on Cavin and Cavinā€™s habit of deflecting pressure off of himself and onto Star are the two reasons I donā€™t see him as scum anymore. Chess clearly has a very good grasp of the table.

Only thing holding me back there is that cavin didnā€™t actually end up on chess

What I just said about him is my general point. I think he had a pure thought process behind his actions.

As in voting chess? Or do you mean Star?

Shit, yeah meant to say star

Eh, I mean, thatā€™s a tonal read I donā€™t really share tbh

Cavinā€™s Key vote today is consistent with his apparent reads from yesterday. FHPOV he thinks the wagon on him was horrible and at least one of the votes on it has to be scum. Heā€™s stated repeatedly that he TRs me and I buy the Key vote from him under those circumstances, both yesterday and today.

Star was dead to rights all day so I envision a scenario where he thought it really wouldnā€™t matter if he voted Star or not and he wanted to generate discussion on Key, of which there was absolutely none on d1.

Seems he wanted to prolong d1 for content reasons too.

Like looking at Keyā€™s iso I see a weak vote on Engravings, a move to Star well before theh were actually in trouble, and a move onto cavin when Star was actually in trouble. Thatā€™sā€¦not a good voting pattern. In a mountainous game Iā€™d be more inclined to say ā€œyeah but why didnā€™t Key just stick to the bus if sheā€™s scum,ā€ but in white flag it makes sense from a scum POV to try and get some momentum elsewhere. This was while I was still resisting chess on the star vote too so it wasnā€™t a done deal.

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I can see the thought process behind everything he did empathically. I wouldnā€™t call it tonal but I may be splitting hairs.

Key is a she, and yeah thatā€™s basically the same as tonal :woman_shrugging: