That’s my contribution. Now I’m going to sit back and watch Erika die.
Roleblocking Luftwaffle, Execute Spak into Martin if wrong
VOTE: ErikaFurudo
E-2
Everybody in the pool should provide observations before we execute, and nobody else should vote because Erika is likely to self-vote here.
I’ll come back and read later.
How do we ISO slots on this site?
Press the head and bust looking button beneath a player.
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Honestly out of everyone that’s left, I’m most suspicious of YBW. I just did an ISO and he has literally no reads aside from Golden, nor has he really contributed any unique views to the game. The only things I can find from him that aren’t just echoing someone else’s opinion are:
- Commenting on not liking my Golden post yesterDay (valid considering what we know now lol)
- Saying that the Spec should probably use heartrate
He’s sorta just been coasting and sheeping the thread intent. Even as of D2 (I think? I forget the D2’s starting post number), his readlist is this:
If I were a killer, I’d want to lay low; the other killers’ first priority would be to kill me, so if I were never considered a threat, I could easily live to endgame.
Also, I still think that Luft v. Martin reads as TvT and Andres has honestly been carrying this game from a scumhunting perspective. YBW is the odd one out, and he’d make a lot of sense as our last killer.
Also also: in regards to Andres’ point, I’d think that whoever is the Spec wouldn’t try to breadcrumb that they’re a PR. Furthermore, I thought they would try to make an effort to crumb not being a PR until lategame (or when they thought it would be advantageous), since the claims could be easily verified. I was clearly wrong in that assumption (based on how Sam’s been playing Spec), but I figured I’d at least tell you the reason why I played like I did.
No I get this. I mean I agree. You would have had no idea I was Specialist until I was ready to out my results (at least 2 Checks, though I would have crumbed my first Check, or Check/RB), and alive at D3 with both still around. Something like that. The fact that Golden Girl just outted D2 and prevented the shot N2 was unorthodox, but mighty effective.
But that’s not what I was arguing. I was arguing that in order to not get shot N1, if you’re not the first Killer (and we know the first Killer was Phone), you have to somehow signal that it’s not you who is the Specialist (because you’re trying not to get shot, and you sure as hell are not counting on Specialist using RB N1 and succeeding) or at least as the third Killer, I very much would have tried to do that. So I was trying to point to who might have done that.
Like it’s why Youbutworse’s gambit might just be so effective. Openly saying “it’s not me!” (and that’s basically what I interpret they did close to the end of the Day) basically means you have to be TR’ed, or the Town might just turn against you later. And you’re expecting the Specialist to be outted at some point, so it really just boils down to you pursuing a difficult strategy that if you’re not natural, will not work. It’s bold. Or, it could have been done in a moment of madness, without a thought. I just wouldn’t have done that myself, and that’s why I think it’s more likely VT.
That and well, I think Martin is Town, frankly. It doesn’t leave much from my POV. I could totally be wrong, I admit. It’s why we absolutely need discussion today.
Another great way to play Vanilla in this setup and I should have tried this I don’t know why I didn’t, is to openly say “I’m not Specialist”, vote, and not say anything else D1 whatsoever. It’s too brazen for Killer.
So you just leave people confused as to whether you’re doing it not to get shot, are actually the Specialist, or not. Meh. At least I would have liked to have seen the reaction.
Yeah this is true. I’ll admit.
I mean I’m like almost sure Martin is Town. I would execute Spak into Youbutworse not to validate the gambit, provided Luft is blocked and a shot occurs.
I am, however, going to follow the leader as they say.
So whatever Golden Girl actually settles on, I may be more inclined to follow. Only because she was right and I was wrong about Erika.
A killer would try to read other killers correctly, especially if they can’t kill yet. Else, they very well may get killed before even being able to do anything. This is in no way clearing Martin.
This is making me think YBW may actually be towny for not scumhunting in this specific setup… simply because as killer, you’d REALLY want to scumhunt and couldn’t expect to get carried by townies like you could do as town.
I think it’s much easier to try and avoid getting shot, than it is to correctly solve the game and be left as the last person standing by helping reduce the pool yourself.
Like towards the beginning, I actually don’t think Killers have a massive incentive to be right. I think they have a massive incentive to look Towny, be wrong, and not get shot.
You want mis-executions of Town, shots from other Killers away from you hunting the Specialist. And if I’m the third Killer, priority No. 1 is getting the Specialist, not other Killers.