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“the road to hell is paved with good intentions”

Watch this whole situation backfire on arete

If I remember right protectives role can’t self target unless explicitly told in their Rolecard

wonder what would happen if someone said this

Godfather isn’t particularly bastard. Framer without expectation, I would say is somewhat bastard.

The setup is absurdly swingy… Power concentration is so high, you can pretty much say that the game is handed to the mafia by the host on a silver platter.

When on top of that, a handful of town are playing anti-town…

Yeah, that was me trying to paraphrase to what I would say.

Like I feel like this game should’ve lasted longer but like people just died left and right…

Well, yeah, there was an unlimited vig on each side, plus only two complete protectives, plus an arsonist (thankfully didn’t happen), plus a suicide bomber, and town is playing horrendously, scum is playing decently.

That was intentional

It was run on CD during build season and I was trying to avoid excessive overlap with FM3

As I said before

Both reviewers told me it’d be townsided lmao

I disagreed so I kept the power balance about where it is because scum winrate on CD is abysmal

The setup is indeed townsided. It’s very swingy though and I think an unlimited scum claim vig is a tad questionable as a design choice since its the bulk of scum power. losing it early throws town the game and if it survives it reaps scum dividends. Still, overall I think the setup from what I’ve seen is alright

It’s meant to be Baby’s First Rolemadness

Both for me and the players

Hence things like a ton of protectives and investigatives but no backups

So yeah that sounds about right

Wut

I mean, it’s only townsided insomuch as it’s role madness and there’s way too many confirmables. But it’s generally swingy and high-power-concentration enough that it’s anyone’s game based less on player skill, unfortunately. I like some of the ideas, but there’s issues there. More to come later if I have the time and WIM (Hint to orange to remind me) to actually sit down and go over things.

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remember that this game was meant to be played on CD, a forum comprised of some experienced people and a lot of newbies, all robotics nerds.

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I don’t really plan to make another game in this same vein but I guess that would still be helpful

let’s play ToS in forum mafia

tons of bastard roles!

Been there done that

If you’re serious go to the ToS forums, they host that p regularly

Losing it early is intentionally hard

They’re currently discussing nokilling

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Scum is good outside, ironic
And we have town that aren’t doing anything which is a bigger problem

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