not so sure but no qualms with the leading one
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/threads/22121-Euro-Friendly-Champs-Practice-Game
Regardless hereās a town game I am nonchalant about being voted you are welcome
Waitā¦ Waitā¦
Try quoting something he said in another thread to back your point and Iāll sheep you.
I couldāve easily got a random link though no one will read it
Hell, some people havenāt read this link.
About that not being my meta?
VOTE: tier
So as I was reading this, I wanted to comment that you donāt actually āneedā specific Duskfall meta to come to the conclusion that scum will actively ignore pressure / scumreads on them. Thatās just what scum do. I think we should all do ourselves a favor and try not to explicitly invoke meta. @chesskid3 I understand you have a passion for voting duskfall but ya canāt say āmeta is trashā and then want elliās meta (though I am assuming youāre mostly asking that to form a read on Elli. Correct me if wrong)
@Ellibereth, is there a good reason why Mewtwo is a better vote than Dusk now. I didnāt particularly pick up anything definitively scummy from them.
I think Gtacc is 100% town here. Every single Panopticon post comes across as shallow to me. And sorta throwing the book at people.
Also I still think Cantrip is scummy ymmv
For āthat makes games more fun/pleasant for peopleā reasons or ābecause itās not effectiveā reasons.
tbh if I donāt use meta then Iām gonna be giving a lot of naked votes I really donāt know how to scumhunt effectively without it.
for this particular game, definitely the first and Iād say largely the 2nd since I donāt think itās particularly helped thus far when it has been invoked (or at least isnāt convincing [potential exception: Tier])
Thereās no way this could be true. I mean I suppose I canāt speak for you, but thatās like trying to run before you can crawl or walk.
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i think that analogy doesnāt hold at all
itās more like thereās this problem where thereās this solution that makes sense to solve it (meta). However everyone else thinks that praying to unicorns and studying alien signals from uranus makes more sense (whatever the fuck you clowns do). Metaman has trouble with praying to unicorns.
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anyway it felt like somebody was faking in dusk vs. m2h but Iām not sure who since they were both speaking gibberish so letās wagon both 
I donāt disagree with you. There are certain problems where only meta can solve. I havenāt seen it in this game though. I also simply canāt believe M2H is metaman lol.
I also think we should self regulate and only use meta judiciously. If thereās an opportunity to use it, Iāll gladly sanction it, but I havenāt seen that this game.
fair enough, I got 0 out of that exchange
i just realized my smash characters should be elimar, zelida, and metaman
the whole exchange just feels exceedingly awkward imo.
Not sure what to make of dusk wagonās constant ebb and flow so at least seeing support resistance in playing them against one another should be productive.