Ranked 2v7

And you know what I think? I think B should not be encouraged at all. You are claiming to be playing in a completely anti-Town way for “ranking” or “selfish” reasons, making it harder for others to read you correctly if you are in fact Town. Why would you think that your argument would sway me at all?

And no we clearly don’t view the way to gain elo in the same way at all. I am actually trying to help Town even when it might hurt me in the short-term, because I strongly believe that it’s correct to behave this way in the long-term. I have demonstrated this by clearing myself in a game where the vote was a real 50/50, when I could have simply invited suspicion and tried to divert away from the true play that wins the game.

So yeah, if you are Town, I resent this as a strategy, and I’m not convinced that I should be relying on this silly argument to change my view on you.

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This is also completely false btw. Being the last vote doesn’t stop the wagon from swinging against you at all. It simply means you are holding the hammer until the very last minute. If a majority is satisfied that you’re Scum, you will flip eventually even if you haven’t voted. So give me a break.

This is probably the most useless statement I’ve seen all game.

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I am beginning to develop serious reservations about a ranking system that seems to be inviting this level of gamesmanship and anti-Town behavior btw. You don’t even have to believe anything that Urist is saying to see that the allure of points is making people vote later, share less and closer towards the end of the day, all so that they individually benefit (to the detriment of other players).

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This is the current ranked setup… :man_shrugging: It rewards selfish, correct town.

You missed the massive bitchfest last night hahahaha

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We could have used u

You haven’t made any statements at all so you’re the last person that should be trying to shoot people down.

I’m not trying to shoot you down, I’m trying to kill that mindset of “Urist did X, it doesn’t make him scum, but I don’t want to encourage that”. He’s not your dog.

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You don’t understand my argument at all so why am I bothering?

When did I say that Urist was NOT Scum?

I get it, but the current ranked system benefits people who are 1) Correct and 2) as anti-town as possible without getting themselves lynched.

You didn’t, but the statement I pointed out doesn’t speak to alignment and that’s exclusively what I’m commenting on.

What I’m saying is this argument as a defense is nonsense, because you’re essentially saying that you should be rewarded for behaving in an anti-Town way (which is what Scum is always trying to do) because rankings. Like, no.

No, he’s using a it as a defense by saying it’s NAI, which is true, so it’s not the topic to discuss if you’re trying to build a wagon there.

He didn’t say it’s pro-town.

I’ve made myself VERY clear as to what I think about Urist’s alignment. That is exactly why he’s directing this nonsense argument my way, which I’m fighting because that’s exactly what it is - nonsense.

So it’s NAI to behave in an anti-Town way? I mean c’mon.

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I think you’re scum just trying to pin this on Urist when the stuff you have against him is NAI.