Mafia 451 Draft

Honestly I think it’s bad play for Mafia to be putting themselves in such a hot 1v1 right now.

then again all you 451ers are weird af so who knows :man_shrugging:

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Seriously though. Right now it’s 3 mafia and 8 townies. Say 1 of Andres/DS in this hot 1v1 is scum. Say one flips town in a mislynch. Then what? Next day it becomes 3 mafia and 6 town, and then we lynch the other one, killing the scum. Then it becomes 2 mafia 6 town, which means mafia ends up worse than when this hot 1v1 started. The only way it ends with a net plus is if mafia has governor and protects the scum during the next lynch, but at that point the scum is still outed : /

I’ll be around a bit later in the day since I played vm all day yesterday instead of doing the things I actually need to do this weekend, but it’s worth pointing out again that Dusk is dead and scum generally shoot their threats, so I’m going to read what Dusk had to say before any of you #sheepthedead

Also I need to confirm to myself that Andres is town, I think Srceen scum makes me more confident but still. I think Doggo is in a different universe to me but that doesn’t make them scum it just makes me confused.

And I don’t get the people digging for claims

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You’re thinking too hard about this. If my Town core is right, then Mafia gets to eliminate two of us and make the game much more open.

So to me it seems like one has to consider the read where both Andres and DS are town but they are too obsessed with having a big peen contest to obtain a hero role and getting a legendary lynch that might not even exist x.x

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Maybe it’s wiser to start looking for scum teams instead of town cores for that very reason :roll_eyes:

I take offense to this. I have a SR based on a bad push. It’s not a contest. I was right about Srceen. I’m fairly certain I’m right here too. DS knows time is running out, and is making a stand. They might also believe that they can get away with it if I’m flipped. Who knows.

DS isn’t tunneling me in a game we’re both Town.

Lack of a real Srceen defence suggests to me scum weren’t very active yesterday?

Or they didn’t want to make themselves obvious.

This isnt what is happening by the way. I have a decent Andres read because we’ve played a number of games together as both alignments. This is not his town game.

I guess? Srceen didn’t carry out the kill according to gtacc’s results, neither did erika if somehow scum vendor

Erika is probably not Scum. Which is why I Unvoted.

DS’ glee at being able to vote there should also tell you something.

Dusk agrees.

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I skipped most of today so far so not quite sure what you mean with the glee. I’ll be more up to date later, I’m just thinking aloud atm. Overnight I was thinking erika, nuxl, wisp remaining scum with outside chances of ds and dan before that claim.

@DS idk about scum andres putting momentum on Srceen when there was nothing there previously and basically causing that lynch. If scum don’t have other healer (which they probably don’t) that’s a doc I don’t think they can stop.

I think Dusk is wrong on that. If you want to talk about what Dusk thought, he also said we shouldn’t be trying to guess at what Elli would pick so he’s contradicting himself.

Everyone contradicts themselves. Scum still killed him.

How are you attempting to shade me for a vote you started?

I also voted there yesterday so it’s not like it was out of nowhere

I’m not the one arguing that his words should back up my reads tbh