Mafia 451 Draft

It’s less about trusting the group holistically and more that I want the group to actually happen so I can start reading people in the group. Maybe the word group is weird. It’s not like I’m asking for a survivor alliance, I’m asking for us to talk and try to figure stuff out. I do think at least 3 of us are town, probably 4 of us. I want this group to keep talking and make plans so I can see who in the group I should sheep and who I shouldn’t trust.

I mean, if all 4 of you suddenly vote one way or share a read, I think I have to strongly strongly consider adopting that vote or read as well. If you guys can’t agree on something then that’s cool too and it just means I get to observe you more. But at least suspending the larger game and pretending that we’re the only 5 people that matter in this world lets me look at a smaller picture instead of getting lost in people I don’t know.

In terms of people within the group, I’m not sure whether to read DS’s anger as scum anger or fed up town anger, but in general I think him voting no lynch instead of voting star is pretty towny. Hannah’s been too quiet for me to read. I got the weird vibe that at times Dusk was trying to pocket me, but at other times he did seem genuinely helpful. Haven’t really read your (nuxl’s) posts with too much thought yet. I mean for pretty much all of you, I want you to talk more so I can actually get reads.

So let’s just hypothetically pretend we’re in a world where the smogon 5 are all guaranteed town, since this hypothetical just gets us talking to each other. Who do we vote?

If you want my reads (I’m an awful person to ask reads from), rn my biggest scum lean is Gtacc. Most of their posts have zero content, I don’t like how very early they said they masoned Hannah, and there was a really weird post where they said if I was scum Andres had to be town which didn’t have any reasoning and seemed to more of try to paint me as scum while protecting Andres if they are scum or just a subtle pocket attempt if they are town. Overall I just don’t see any town intent in Gtacc. Maybe it’s because the 451 people play differently, but I just don’t see the town :man_shrugging:

I apologize for going so hard on you Gtacc, but I guess this is also your chance to convince me you’re town. If I appear to be listening more to smogoons than your reply though, well you know why already based on the earlier sentiments I made in this post.

vote key, thank you :smiley:

VOTE: key

Btw nanook I assume angle-shot me town, which clears me atp. Also where is wisp from, is this their first game on site?

I just meant why try to hammer no lynch a full 24 hours before deadline, why not wait to get more info?

Star was really bold to gladiate d1 and it seems like a suicide move as mafia so I figured likely town, and DS seemed towny enough to me to not vote him. Also not being locked into a gladiate is nicer imo because honestly I wasn’t looking to lynch one of two town leans?

Uhh I think wisp is ChadMD’s brother, I think they typically play elsewhere? Might not be first here but maybe still new here

Why?

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Ah ok, I like chad

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!scum

:thinking:

But I liked Key, he didn’t ping me as scummy at all yesterday

Their two biggest scum reads are the two most clear town from my pov, they are a good player who elli would be likely to pick (which also makes their reads more unnacceptable). Also considering two of the best players have already flipped town, it becomes more and more likely that other good players flip scum. Considering key has been scummy imo, and has a baseline higher odds of being scum anyways, they can die.

@Hannahh what are your reads on me/ds?

Oh hi @hannahh

Reads on you and DS? Uh this play doesn’t seem like your scum play. Even tho a few things you said were weird early on I think it’s cause this isn’t smogon and I’m just adjusting. You’re too out in the open and forceful to be scum here imo. Let me get to class and read up on ds first before commenting wrt him

did you just completely sheep me yesterday?

hannah could be scum tbh :frowning:

I already answered why I no lynched, literally 10 minutes ago. Honestly yesterday I ended the day thinking Nanook was scum. Star seemed like a crackhead townie and I know personally I’m unable to correctly read ds

hmm ok

@Nuxl go find some townies so i can townread you