M19 Doc 14 Game Thread - Mafia win!

7, but we already have 2 so you only need 5

assuming I counted correctly

since f5 needs 3 clears to be mech solved

we’re at 13 people atm, so there’s 4 day/night cycles before we get to f5, assuming there’s an nk and a yeet every phase

meaning scum can kill 4 clears before reaching f5

and we need 3 in f5

so 3+4 = 7


I know orange said 7 already but that took enough time that I don’t want to delete it

fair

though the fact that he didn’t really do anything at that point is probably town anyway

should have clarified I meant social clears

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For reference, for anybody who forgot that game.

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brings back good memories

Also paranoia on fire is dumb

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He is the one person I know who will literally just actually claim lmao

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When I’m scum I usually think he’s faking and he never is

Look at FAM

Look at Hydra Vig10

Dude’s just town here, leave it at that

Orange can verify this:
I have never lied about being a certain role in my life.
Never

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Yes although as fire said nothing there was lockscum it was just worse than the other options

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

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Okay so here’s the whole ISO

Roughly 2 minutes into the day:

Roughly 1.5 hours into the day:

Roughly 12.5 hours into the day:

And roughly 25 hours into the day:

My main two immediate red flsgs from this that were the strongest two things that led me to vote JKBear in particular were:

  • The phrase “ok back to semi sleepily reading” on a post that was purely reactionary. This kind of “Beetlejuice” posting, where you respond when mentioned/accused, is seen in 2/4 of JKBear’s posts, but the last one in particular also goes out of its way to imply that he’s maintaining a level of thread awareness that there is no other evidence of in his posts. It’s purely showy, not solvy. Town aren’t always solvy, but they also don’t have a need to be showy.

  • The overall time distribution of these posts. Flash is a good counterexample to this - Flash came in at the start of the game with noticable energy, did some actual interaction with people, and then just never returned, presumably due to forgetting or being busy. JKBear entered the thread nearly immediately at SoD, then did nothing until he was voted an hour and a bit later, then did nothing for another 11 hours until he suddenly popped in to talk about how our games usually go. It’s clear he was present for parts of the game, but was having difficulty engaging naturally even when he was around. Certainly not damning on its own, but in tandem with the content of his posts being another red flag I felt much safer going here than anywhere else.

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For people who need orange translation JKbear was a wolf why are you asking why we wolf read him

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Not meant as a reply to that whoops

@clonedcheese @Aelin there you go

also ftr you guys are focusing a lot on questioning people about things when really it’s generally more effective to put yourself into their shoes and figure out why they are doing what they’re doing instead of demanding they justify themselves to you (which is exceptionally liable to “catch” villagers, especially given only scum are actively planning a story to tell when they do things)

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@aelin
This is why I believed orange was town D1.
It’s a very effective tool in this size of a game.

Why are we questioning the JKBear vote?
I’ve gotta go now unfortunately, yes i know it’s 10
Still going with my erich vote will reevalutate tomorrow.

Trying to learn the greatness here :^)

ok but apparently your reason for doing stuff was “memeing” and i was taking d1 seriously so

i was trying to villa hunt
but i needed some level of cooperation
not just
“lol”
“lol”
“lmao”
i appreciate advice but refusing to help me do anything for an entire day and then telling me im doing stuff wrong is making me very close to infuriated
i have rewritten this three times
each time had less cussing until we were down to none
be proud of me

what is “this” referring to

im trying to understand because ive got paranoia kicking me in the back of my kneecaps

ye

regardless imo it’s probably better to treat him as locktown so scum are forced to resolve the slot

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VOTE: Squirrel2412