So
To explain where my head was at
I read bepwei’s post as calling out cheese for voting ek and then swapping as soon as 000peo got back in the lead
In my mind I thought bepwei was saying “if 000peo is scum, remember cheese tried to vote EK”
Apparently that’s not what it was which is sad
???
What has happened between last night when it was null and today to lead you to this?
Woke up
Ran
Showers
Mafia
Eat
Hotel
Trivago
I’m gonna be honest I don’t remember what I was thinking pre-breakfast but I guess I can make a reads list
Scum:
Kaylee
Cheese
Probably scum:
Quin
Orange
Catty
N:
Laser
Gtacc
Flash
Goal
Probably town:
Jk
Ari
Squirrel
Town:
Bep
Arete
talk to me about this one
Oh I remember
Thoughts on why I survived the night after swearing I was gonna kill squirrel?
It’s probably wifom
But like
I only really seriously considered trying to vote out kaylee or squirrel
And so even if scum team called my bluff l (or didn’t) they could only reasonably assume id kill one of the two
Which would probably indicate one of the two are scum, right? Cuz otherwise they woulda just killed me?
Does anyone follow my logic here? I’m not being very clear I’m just trying to explain that scum team NOT killing me last night probably means something about my reads
He’s been doing a good job of game solving, constantly pushing, not going down rabbit holes
Only test he hasn’t passed (because lack of oprotunity) is acting well under pressure
Someone talk to me about the nk
doesn’t vengeful only apply if you’re voted out during the day?
EricKline:
Gonna be honest here, when I said ‘iso’ I really meant ‘revisit the posts that gave me sus vibes + the ones at EoD’
381-398 - I think this is still weird, though as I’ve thought about EK’s play in past games, I think it makes a lot more sense. M10* perhaps being one of the best examples, he made a lot of posts trying to keep conversation going.
Looking at these posts from that POV, I think there’s definitely a world where town!eric starts a conversation that’s either useless or helps scum because he wants to keep people talking and didn’t necessarily think through what he wanted to get out of the conversation. There’s also the point that vengefultown!Eric would want to examine orange in more depth as a potential revenge target, though that seems less likely.
Of course, there’s also a world where scum!eric starts that conversation because he wants to see if orange will slip and give up crucial information. But overall, this interaction is looking more null or scumlean, not as strong as it was previously.
*This was also a game where I was highly sus of him for a long time (and we both ended up being town PR anyways)
791-792 - This is also consistent with Eric’s mentality of getting conversation going and involving more people.
854 - supports previous notes on 381-398
1137 - (note: this post was made 3 minutes before EoD) This feels like a townie mindset. At this point, this is the votecount:
EricKline (5): Ari_2412, Squirrel2412, Quin, k.aylee2412, laserlab
000peo (5): Arete, orangeandblack5, bepwei, JKBear331, EricH
orangeandblack5 (2): clonedcheese, GoalkeeperBoss
GoalkeeperBoss (1): cattypaws_f
k.aylee2412 (1): EricKline
Not Voting (3): TheFlash, 000peo, GTacc
I’m pretty sure scum!eric doesn’t reveal that he’s vengeful, since he could get a free kill. Plus he still had the self pres vote by moving from from kaylee to 000peo. In addition, assuming scum decide who gets voted out in a tie, then he shouldn’t be worried about a tie anyways. So the move to reveal is looking pretty townie to me.
1152 - for the record, I’m okay with a 1 for 1, though I’d prefer for it to not involve me. I won’t elaborate more on that.
1210-1211 - this felt pretty townie (scum!eric should know he wasn’t nk’ed), but I think he could fake it. Still, I think it’s more likely that it’s a sign of town!eric.
Overall thoughts:
EK’s moving more into a townlean for me. The 381-398 interaction was weird, but I can see a world where that comes from town!eric, and his EoD reveal felt town to me.
And all said and done, I think we shouldn’t vote him out today since he claims vengeful (and nobody counterclaims that slot). It at best results in scum getting 1 closer to majority, and at worst results in scum getting 3 closer to majority.
Voting out town!eric:
He kills 1 town, scum get 1 NK. This results in a net -3 townies.
or
He kills 1 scum, scum get 1 NK. This results in a net -1 townie.
Voting out scum!eric:
He kills 1 town, scum get 1 NK. This results in a net -1 townie.
And barring a cop/tracker check, I think there’s enough data on the EoD wagons for more compelling cases than Eric.
Whoops, did not mean to reply to EK’s post
Ah well
Time for EricH iso
Will be back later
the fact that i actually read through the thread
Tell me this is cap
Yeah okay no
Eliminate includes death during the night
This would also be constant with the conversation and I had last night
So no, not true
rip
Really you’re a neutral
But youve talked way too much for me to leave on neutral
And really your actions seem to continue to lean towards that “passive” that I was talking about earlier. Like, you’re not really game solving like I’d normally expect
And I don’t like how much pocketing you appear to be doing
is this omgus or an actual read