Josh Mafia - Day 4

Completed Games Completed Onsite
#1582

True.

#1583

Iā€™m pulling a play from the Elli playbook
Key was online and didnā€™t post in this thread
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#1584

Also I still want a follow-up with Dusk
but Iā€™m willing to shelf him for now on the caveat that if Dusk ever dies and flips scum then Tex needs to die immediately afterwards.

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#1585

jack his keys

#1586

blap blap

#1587

@Dannflor I kind of feel like you should start threatening people with your shot rather than waiting and then doing it?

#1588

Dann should almost certainly shoot Chad again. I donā€™t buy that he changed alignment.

#1589

Knock knock open up the door
Its the nonstop pop pop of stainless steel

#1590

did josh confirm that mod announcements are confirmed to be truthful

#1591

If chad claimed his alignment can change before dan claimed he died if he shoots town, I donā€™t think thatā€™s safe.

#1592

Oh wait I think its nonstop click clack

#1593

he claimed it start of d2 (after dannā€™s claim).
i donā€™t really think that chad is mafia and donā€™t think the shotā€™ll change much, but if we want dann to live i think thatā€™d be the best way to go.

#1594

I went back, tried to form some real opinions on this game. Hereā€™s my rundown so far.

Reads list:

Town
{DS, Urist}
[#130], [#199, #472, #697, #711]

Positive Lean
{fuyu, Joined_Under_Duress, Texas, ActionDan}
[#263, #382], [#304, #601, #622, #713], [#250, #326], [#608].

Slight Positive Lean
{Danathon, Chesskid, MS, DS}
[#592]

Neutral / Null
{Ellibereth, Key}

Negative Lean
{Duskfall98, the_worst, Northsidegal, ErikaFurudo}
[#150, #334, #491, #527, #543], [#222], [#577].

Confirmed Scum
{Nanook}

Confirmed Town
{Transcend, Rob}

My view of Urist would change meaningfully if Srceenplay flips Town I think.

Texas interaction with Dusk #257-258 interesting. Fuyu and Texas either TvT or SvT [#263, #271]. Same with Dusk v. Duck? [#290]. Texas piling on #303 v. Dusk.

#304 - Dusk making decisions on a whim isnā€™t necessarily Scummy. It simply means that Dusk is relying on gut. However, questioning such reliance is Towny I think.

#306 seems excessive from Dusk.

If Iā€™m skeptical of the_worst, who Iā€™ve expressed generally positive feelings for in the past, itā€™s because of the absolutism used when talking about Dusk now that Iā€™m re-reading. #310 is a good example (ā€œI donā€™t Town Read anything youā€™ve done so far (ā€¦)ā€). And from just a few responses we get #321, which is a rather abrupt switch. And then votes Transcend in #322. And after switching away, goes back to voting there. #384 also looks bad in hindsight. #687 is another example of this off tone Iā€™m referencing (ā€œaggressively flailing ever sinceā€).

#362 - Duck can you explain what made you worry that you were going to be NKā€™ed? Seems like a strange concern to me.

#378 Iā€™ll admit is giving me pause - frankly, itā€™s a valid argument. Iā€™m of the mindset that the more information, the better, and I have been leaning more and more towards waiting to execute players the more I play Mafia. Doesnā€™t mean I donā€™t make my stances clear, but I would Unvote if a wagon was building too quickly for example. Itā€™s a difference in style though, and not necessarily Scummy.

#381, #400, #416, #435, #628 - I donā€™t know that all this clears Srceen or not, but Iā€™m beginning to lean yes.

I think D1 overall is not great for Dusk to be honest. At least this is my feel ~500 posts in. The hardened stance on Transcend in #558 is another bad look, particularly given the flip. Am I being manipulated here with the NK? #680 doesnā€™t help me either.

I had NSG as Lean Town [#544], but Iā€™m downgrading based on #577.

DS in #613 kind of sucks, but I canā€™t Scum Read it. I feel DS would care to take harder stances if Scum. But possibly coasting.

#621 is originally why I had a positive view of Erika. #636 tilts it in the opposite direction. Though itā€™s on Dusk. Providing reads in #660 seems Towny too. Maybe I need to reconsider here?

#622 is either extremely on point as Town, or factual knowledge as Scum. Overall, Iā€™m leaning Town on JUD, so Iā€™m impressed.

#734 - I take this back. Clearly I wasnā€™t paying all that much attention.

I also overestimated my read of ActionDan - not enough relevant content now that I read back. My view of his tone stands.

ā€”

Iā€™ll keep reading. This is through #745.

#1595

I distinctly remember him claiming he can become town d1. Iā€™ll check in a bit.

#1596

UNVOTE

#1597

he said something like, ā€œas long as you lynch correctly i am permanently a member of the townā€.
we havenā€™t lynched correctly afaik. i think he was referring to the fact that he is going to try to act protown.
i donā€™t even think he said the above before dann claimed but iā€™m not gonna bother checking.

#1598

so it came after hrmm

#1599

The IC is obviously Confirmed Town too. And RADicate is Town for role reasons.

Iā€™m having trouble with Srceenplay, who I might be leaning Town right now. I Unvoted for this reason. I donā€™t know if thatā€™s the entire playlist.

#1600

there isnā€™t really any reason to assume an alignment change.
Iā€™m almost positive he was just saying that he would prefer to side with town.
idk why I forgot this.
:v

#1601

@Andresvmb

why do you have me as Town and also as Slight Positive Lean

also are the numbers under the names meant to be reasons youre reading them?