Josh Mafia - Day 4

Knock knock open up the door
Its the nonstop pop pop of stainless steel

did josh confirm that mod announcements are confirmed to be truthful

If chad claimed his alignment can change before dan claimed he died if he shoots town, I don’t think that’s safe.

Oh wait I think its nonstop click clack

he claimed it start of d2 (after dann’s claim).
i don’t really think that chad is mafia and don’t think the shot’ll change much, but if we want dann to live i think that’d be the best way to go.

I went back, tried to form some real opinions on this game. Here’s my rundown so far.

Reads list:

Town
{DS, Urist}
[#130], [#199, #472, #697, #711]

Positive Lean
{fuyu, Joined_Under_Duress, Texas, ActionDan}
[#263, #382], [#304, #601, #622, #713], [#250, #326], [#608].

Slight Positive Lean
{Danathon, Chesskid, MS, DS}
[#592]

Neutral / Null
{Ellibereth, Key}

Negative Lean
{Duskfall98, the_worst, Northsidegal, ErikaFurudo}
[#150, #334, #491, #527, #543], [#222], [#577].

Confirmed Scum
{Nanook}

Confirmed Town
{Transcend, Rob}

My view of Urist would change meaningfully if Srceenplay flips Town I think.

Texas interaction with Dusk #257-258 interesting. Fuyu and Texas either TvT or SvT [#263, #271]. Same with Dusk v. Duck? [#290]. Texas piling on #303 v. Dusk.

#304 - Dusk making decisions on a whim isn’t necessarily Scummy. It simply means that Dusk is relying on gut. However, questioning such reliance is Towny I think.

#306 seems excessive from Dusk.

If I’m skeptical of the_worst, who I’ve expressed generally positive feelings for in the past, it’s because of the absolutism used when talking about Dusk now that I’m re-reading. #310 is a good example (“I don’t Town Read anything you’ve done so far (…)”). And from just a few responses we get #321, which is a rather abrupt switch. And then votes Transcend in #322. And after switching away, goes back to voting there. #384 also looks bad in hindsight. #687 is another example of this off tone I’m referencing (“aggressively flailing ever since”).

#362 - Duck can you explain what made you worry that you were going to be NK’ed? Seems like a strange concern to me.

#378 I’ll admit is giving me pause - frankly, it’s a valid argument. I’m of the mindset that the more information, the better, and I have been leaning more and more towards waiting to execute players the more I play Mafia. Doesn’t mean I don’t make my stances clear, but I would Unvote if a wagon was building too quickly for example. It’s a difference in style though, and not necessarily Scummy.

#381, #400, #416, #435, #628 - I don’t know that all this clears Srceen or not, but I’m beginning to lean yes.

I think D1 overall is not great for Dusk to be honest. At least this is my feel ~500 posts in. The hardened stance on Transcend in #558 is another bad look, particularly given the flip. Am I being manipulated here with the NK? #680 doesn’t help me either.

I had NSG as Lean Town [#544], but I’m downgrading based on #577.

DS in #613 kind of sucks, but I can’t Scum Read it. I feel DS would care to take harder stances if Scum. But possibly coasting.

#621 is originally why I had a positive view of Erika. #636 tilts it in the opposite direction. Though it’s on Dusk. Providing reads in #660 seems Towny too. Maybe I need to reconsider here?

#622 is either extremely on point as Town, or factual knowledge as Scum. Overall, I’m leaning Town on JUD, so I’m impressed.

#734 - I take this back. Clearly I wasn’t paying all that much attention.

I also overestimated my read of ActionDan - not enough relevant content now that I read back. My view of his tone stands.

I’ll keep reading. This is through #745.

I distinctly remember him claiming he can become town d1. I’ll check in a bit.

UNVOTE

he said something like, “as long as you lynch correctly i am permanently a member of the town”.
we haven’t lynched correctly afaik. i think he was referring to the fact that he is going to try to act protown.
i don’t even think he said the above before dann claimed but i’m not gonna bother checking.

so it came after hrmm

The IC is obviously Confirmed Town too. And RADicate is Town for role reasons.

I’m having trouble with Srceenplay, who I might be leaning Town right now. I Unvoted for this reason. I don’t know if that’s the entire playlist.

there isn’t really any reason to assume an alignment change.
I’m almost positive he was just saying that he would prefer to side with town.
idk why I forgot this.
:v

@Andresvmb

why do you have me as Town and also as Slight Positive Lean

also are the numbers under the names meant to be reasons youre reading them?

and urist already said this
I’m just gonna go to bed
lol.

I forgot to delete you from Slight Lean. It’s reinforced by Urist’s view of you.

And yes the numbers are posts that I would return to that are informing my view.

So youre town reading me because Clem threw shade then

@Ellibereth hey code in a way so that doing something like #130 will autolink to that post in the current thread so people may actually one day fact check an Andres reads list

thx!

I’m taking a shortcut and deferring to Urist in part. I’m also TR you based on tone. And yeah Nanook’s shade helps me.

fwiw I was reading Chad as a 3p survivor - I dont think he ever said that he would become town just that he is a number for town as long as we lynch properly