FRC M20

Hey I never said I wasn’t gonna try

It’s just I am not required to mechanically

No require mentality

please try

I need someone to sheep this game while I slank

2 AM Vote Count

Yoshi (1): Quin
ash4fun (1): Zorvo
Quin (1): ash4fun
clonedcheese (1): tn5421

Not Voting (7): laserlab, orangeandblack5, clonedcheese, Squirrel2412, EllaM, EricH, Yoshi

i should get more than 4 hours of sleep a night but eh that sounds like work

I need Sheep.

Who wants to vote someone.
It appears we are undecided with our votes, let’s make things more clear.

If everyone slanks then who gets sheeped?

VOTE: clonedcheese

I summarized it as a read based around feel (and hence personal opinion on the situation), Not one based on informed fact. But I will say there was more thought that went into that post than the combination of the way the wind was blowing and what side of the bed I got up on. (Even though now I could further elaborate on this topic, you would easily have it dismissed as something I generated as a result of the said post I am responding to currently). If you want to see what was said rationale I would include it below.

Squirrel, my follow up to the post you quoted gets into it a bit,

Him pushing me for a post saying “x” and him posting a post saying “x*” does not give me positive inkling towards his posts.

Basically, if I have been coming to the correct interpretations about where everyone’s head is at. Ash took exception to my post about orange explaining how I was looking at him after the “nights” posts. Seth asked how come, I arrived at that statement and I summarized and simply put as feel. Instead of rambling on in 3+ paragraphs that no one ever reads or takes into account when doing anything. Side note: Personally I am trying to make my posts shorter (this one not included) to have them be more digestible and easier to extract my point from them.
These interactions prompted a bit later in the day Ash’s reaction and his resulting vote of myself (post 63) where he went into his cited reasons about his conclusions about myself. Which I did find to be valid and to an extent

————- written night of 07/10/2022, will be continued morning of 08/10/2022.———————

And were presented in relatively good faith of his thoughts about my actions. Coming to the generalized conclusions which he has continued posted about and I do not need to rehash here. My main opinion switch occurred with a post in similar content to mine which he took exception to. (Post 69) a feel based town read. Which puts us in the position that we are at now with the posing of last “night”.

My response to the differing characteristics of the people we are reading I completely disagree with and find it just pushing for the sake of push without any base of the claims. No player shall be granted the title of historically town and it is so obvious that it is suspicious to town read it (unless it is an oblivious newbie[1]). Further to that point, this especially does not apply to orange. When I think of orange in a game, I think of M14[2], (rightly or wrongly) and that game alone shows the dangers of unequivocally assuming that orange is a solver and therefore town.

Rationale

As I mentioned earlier, when I think of orange I think of M14[2]. Which if you are unaware I will summarize as a orange power wolf and unright unequivocal control granted by the town onto orange (town had on orange coloured glasses). What this resulted from a selling of town on the town block by orange somewhat early day 1 of the game (for orange knows best reasons, I believe).

This applies to this game because we saw the inverse of what occurred in M14[2] occurred here. With the same character in orange he presented a list which he described as having occurrences of greater than random chance to be mafia. With this being the inverse of what did occur in M14 where he was mafia that does make him fall towards the town side of the line so far in this game.

Why this is not further for that is two main reasons one is the age of the game of M14[2] (nearing three years ago), actions, reactions and said motivations change over a period of time especially given a time period this long. (I would not be surprised if someone would be able to find a study supporting that a change in the characteristics of a person’s interactions occurs over a time period that we are looking at. Secondly even if said change did not noticeably occur for orange. There is the accumulation of knowledge from prior games (mainly M14[2]) that would factor into how you conduct yourself in relation to what has occurred in past games. (I would not conduct myself in a similar manner to how I did in M13[3] no matter if there was a greater change in myself as a person outside of the game.)

Hence, this was summarized as simply feel, I felt a specific way about how orange was conducting himself leading to how I felt about him at the time of said post.

So here you are Ash and Squirrel (and anyone else pining for this post.)

-[1] Oblivious Newbie: personally defined as a player that in his/her/their entry into the realm of forum mafia conduct themselves in a way that no one would do as a mafia within their first forays into the activity.

-[2] Game of M14 FRC Mafia 14 Game Thread - Games/Trivia - Chief Delphi

-[3] Game of M13 FRC Mafia 13 Game Thread - Games/Trivia - Chief Delphi

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Also, I thought HOCO (homecoming) activities were illegal.

Also @Yoshi and @EllaM , you have any thoughts on what has happened so far?

VOTE: clonedcheese

So uh, what’s the deets on the cheese wagon? Is it just slanking policy? Or beligerance?

I’m not necessarily against a policy exec, but it does seem super early and not-useful to dogpile with votes for slanking at this point–particularly without asking him to do anything eg. not slank.

On that note
@clonedcheese
I want to see a Top3/Bottom3 from you by midnight

Same goes for my other lowposters
@laserlab
@EllaM
@EricH
@Yoshi

Holy wallpost batman!

I’m not sure that doubling down and providing reasons that weren’t there to begin with actually addresses my accusations though.

(Granted, I’ve done the same as both town and scum)

Reminder: I’m not saying that orange should not be townread by anyone. I’m saying that quin’s tr was strategic, paritally evidenced by the lack of any substantive reasoning

Is THIS
Potential W/W equity with Cheese???
:face_with_raised_eyebrow: :thinking:

Try not to turbo cheese before tomorrow so I can make real posts please

UNVOTE

no

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I like this

Not saying it’s town but I like this

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Memory might be bad

But I don’t remember the last time wolf quin put this much effort into a post