Flip Flappers Mafia [TOWN WIN]

UNVOTE: SRCEENPLAY

VOTE: VAL

Val on #361.

I reread valā€™s Iso.
I donā€™t see it guys, how are they scum?

Andres your suspicions reasoning on Val does not read to me as a cautious scum but more like s confused paranoid town.

Itā€™s their absents of :-
1/ not scumhunting
2/ not relating to /interating with other players.

Now, never having played with Val before, this may be their normal town play.
But, with many players those two factors look scummy.

ā€œinteratingā€, should be interacting or relating to.

Thatā€™s basically the whole player list

It is the lurker/slacker play list and that is why I get so frustrated with town lurkers.
If you are town, you should want to interact and be seen to either scum hunt,or, many town hunt and gives reasons why they think players are town Yes?

That is the point of town play, to decide who are your team mates and who are scum.
Scums purpose is to look as town as possible.

If town has players who lurk/skate, then it makes things very easy for scum to hide and not make an effort.

There are town players who are good at figuring out who are scum but if they donā€™t interact with town as towny how can we trust their reads?

Donā€™t get mad that you feel you are playing better town than town. You definitely do sound like you are trying to justify a town lynch.

Okay, It is easy to say ā€œIā€™m not seeing itā€ especially when I could be wrong.
But, right or wrong I have given reasons for my votes.
I mean, Erika is seeing something Iā€™m not seeing, is a legitament reason.

Can you give reason for why you are seeing Val as town?
For that matter, what are your reasons for seeing me as scum?
Can you give us a list of all the living players and what your thoughts are on their game?

I gave my thoughts on Val just a few post ago.

All the living players? Probably not. Maybe I could give a sentence on each if the list was in front of me.

You are scum because my intuition says so. I feel like you are bouncing around from Vote to vote and it feels fake. Like you are faking uncertainty. You also shade some people and stop without reason. It seems like you want things placed around that you can go back to later for distancing.

Okay, we will have to agree to disagree.

One thing about my game is that I donā€™t say, Srceenplay is scum for 100% sure.
Because, unless I have a scum board to look at, I canā€™t possibly know for certain.

I have played recently in games with insane cops, and they didnā€™t know they were insane.
So even if I had an investigative role, I could not be 100% certain.

Go back through day one, how many players said, Titus is Scum I am positive?
They were wrong.
I said, from his play and the odds, he is as likely scum as any other player.
And I was wrong.

But people see my honesty as scummy and others (absolutely wrong) certainty as town.:shrug::ohyes::roll_eyes::rofl::joy:

What about motivation?
I asked the question earlier.
Why would I force the Ttius vote,knowing I would be seen as scum if titus turned out to be town?
What would be the point?
The chances were he would get lynched anyway or there would be no lynch?
I donā€™t see my motive for forcing things if scum.
Same as I can see no motive for Erika Hammering as scum.
Why make such an obvious target of herself?

Cat is now a town lean for me.

This sounds to self aware and ā€¦ I got side tracked by my wife and lost my train of thought. It had something to do with being to self awareness

It probably is, I am notgoodas scum hunting.
I am not a particular good mafia player.
I am trying to improve my game.
To improve, donā€™t you have to be self aware and analyse your own game as well as others?

This is something that does make pause.
But
When you make your own arguments for your play it doesnā€™t pack as much punch

First Iā€™ll explain why I think Val is town.

At the time, there was lower-hanging fruit for Val to go after. ffery is a big fish, and Val doesnā€™t seem like the sort to go big-fish fishing as scum. So this post reads genuine to me.

Doesnā€™t make a lot of sense for scum to post this, since heā€™d never expressed a scum read on Elwood. Reads like a legit thought that Val just forgot he hadnā€™t shared in-thread before.

Again, really weird thing to post as scum. Iā€™d expect him to come up with a better reason to not vote Elwood as scum (or, if he did think Elwood was a Vig, possibly try to get a claim out of him).

Thatā€™s pretty much all that can be said of Val since thereā€™s not much else. But I do think his thought process is both consistent with a town mindset and consistent in general, so I donā€™t get the hate.

No it doesnā€™t. I know, but the game has been so slow that I do post more than I should to try to encourage others to get more involved.

As Mylo said when ask about my play, he thought the being busy forcing things is not alignment indicative.