Deep Space 9 Mafia - Game Over!

[_fferyllt (_fferyllt (muffins > cupcakes))]

is orchid a variety of red?

[Srceenplay]

but I feel like his push on Nanook has come from a town mindset

What was my push, I don’t remember.

[Andresvmb (Andrés)]

I’ve been back and forth on my read of them this game a lot.

I don’t see this. You fake claimed to clear Cats, joked that Cats was Scummy for role fishing (I say joked because the questions were valid and your claim was fake), and then said that you had a slight Town lean on Cats.

Stop being scumy and trying to fish for more information on my
Go vote nanook with me.

I probably have a slight town lean on cats.
They are all over and sometimes they say things that make me think, what?
But
I think that indecisiveness and random thoughts comes more from a paranoid town thought process.

At this time, Cats was L-4.

Mantis then does a deep analysis of Cat’s posts, and comes to the conclusion that Cats is probably Town. You seem to move on, since no more posts from you reference Cats until… you vote Cats in #660, when Cats is at L-3, and after Cats writes a post that you call questionable. Now, the post is most probably not AI, since Cats has asked the same question as Town (in a game that you played in). So all in all… I don’t find your explanation to be particularly compelling.

I have another question for you. If you are Scum reading Mantis (I do not know if you are or not anymore, though you did have a vote on her at one point), do you think that Scum!Mantis would look to stick her neck out and write a detailed analysis of Cats’ posts to clear a fellow Scum player? I am thinking at most one of them might be Scum, but probably not both.

[parsec]

was it really 5 days? damn

sorry i will try to read up but im still kind of busy

[Urist]

Like a quarter of your posts this game were directed at Nanook, how do you not remember.
Rereading the push I gotta retract my statement about it looking town. A lot of the stuff is just you trying to paint or reframe Nanook’s actions to make them look scummier. Like here:

He also shaded the Miller claim by saying it’s something scum would do on his homesite.

But you ask for a cc.
Lol.
So you don’t trust claims but want someone else to claim.
On top of that you wanted everyone to claim to begin with.

These things aren’t really scummy. In the latter quote, I would say that Nanook asking for a CC is weird, but it’s only tangentially related to his ask for a massclaim (and even then, asking for a CC is consistent with being pro-claim). As for the former quote, saying that Nanook ‘shaded’ the miller claim is a stretch for sure, what Nanook said was this:

Can’t say whether it’s likely or not at this point, but fwiw, scum fake claiming Miller is a thing that would happen on my home site. Also not sure how that translates to the meta here, if at all.

Doesn’t look like shading to me, just looks like him acknowledging the possibility of a miller fakeclaim.

[Urist]

Why are you voting for Srceen?

[Mantis]

I don’t remember exactly. But actually, I kind of do. This was after I thought cats seemed town. He was voting cats at the time so I remember looking at his iso and deciding that he seemed a bit scummy. I might glance up again to see what it was exactly.

I still haven’t seen too much of a reason to remove it either

[Mantis]

Deep Space 9 Mafia - Day 1

I don’t really trust Screnplay. He played the ‘fake’ commentary too many times… Makes me think that he did it again for a 2nd time because he was town read for it the first time.

[Urist]

If anyone has a counter claim this is where they would step forward right?

The answer to this is an unequivocal yes. Don’t worry about the rest of the questions in that paragraph.

Btw Nanook wasn’t the only one who advocated a CC, Andres and ActionDaniel were also for a CC. Srceen did single out Nanook seemingly arbitrarily.

[Urist]

Actually @ActionDan how did you get from

The answer to [should a cop cc?] is an unequivocal yes.

to

Screenplay is making it up completely 100%.

?

[Andresvmb (Andrés)]

Mantis you might be misremembering what triggered your review, because I do not think that Srceenplay voted for Cats until #660.

[Mantis]

Odd. One moment, I’m going to check

[Urist]

There were nearly 200 posts between what you quote and your vote. Was that really the reason you voted for him?

[Mantis]

Right it was Action Dan on the cats wagon that caused me to look at AD, and then vote for him

Deep Space 9 Mafia - Day 1

Not a huge fan of this post, because I find don’t believe that AD is really going to check out parsec’s games on another site. It looks like he could be asking to make himself look extra curious. Easy enough questions -post 102, says he doesn’t mind the Urist wagon because he’s not townreading him -post 128, he answers Andre and clarifys that he’s not scum reading him, but that he was NAI, but then says that recently he is leaning town on him now. (in between post 102 and 128, Ur…

[Mantis]

@Andresvmb ya for Screen I just thought he looked bad at the time, so voted him (post 441)

[Mantis]

See below to Andres

[Mantis]

I would be interested in knowing if you still felt that way after re-reading him

[Urist]

you can’t just say “he looked bad at the time so I voted him” when “the time” is 200 posts and 2 days before the vote!

[Mantis]

It occurred to me that I didn’t really trust him (he had posted in post 433).

[Mantis]

And no it wasn’t in that EXACT moment in time. But in that exact moment in time, I considered him and thought he might be looking a bit scum. So voted him.

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