I think we should lynch Urist if Srceenplay flips Town Doctor/Symbiote that cannot be NK’ed. If Srceenplay flips VT he deserved to die. And I’m fine restarting from there.
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Agree.
It is Urist and Mantis who have forced this confrontation.
I don’t remember who forced the cabd/metal playoff, but cabd flip scum which, to my mind saved Metal as town.
So? We shall see what we shall see.
Josh will probably come in and say, this is crazy and make us all see sense.
100% behind this.
If Srceen flips Town Bulletproof Doctor or its equivalent, I will gladly eat 10000 lunches lynches.
I’ll only hammer if it’s screen lynch or no lynch
no lynches suck
even if it means you have to camp out through campy puns for another 8 days?
Why does that matter?
Because you hard claimed. And because there was no NK. The odds of you flipping VT are like minuscule. Either you flip what you’re claiming, or you flip Scum.
I’m flipping what I’m saying.
My point is what does me being vt or doc matter?
I was thinking mantis scum for a moment a long time ago.
Who gave me shit for that? Anyone?
Because if you were lying about your role, and somebody thought that it was unlikely and Scummy, and advocated for your lynch, and you flipped VT, then all of a sudden their argument makes sense and it’s not ridiculous. So it needs to be based on other factors. Which would lower my incentive for speed lynching.
Urist that is.
Basically you are saying doc, urist dies.
VT, urist lives.
I don’t understand the rationale behind that statement.
Eh
Fair enough-ish.
What makes Andres so towny?
I take it that this question is not aimed at me.
He is in the pile that could be scum, but then so are you and me.
I do wonder if Urist is the scum desparately pushing for the town doc lynch?
But, then that only buys them one more day.
@Andresvmb would you vote Ursit today and the town doc tomorrow?
that’s tricky
if I wasn’t clear to everyone, I am not voting screen unless that means there won’t otherwise be a lynch.
I would. But gun to my head, if you asked me whether I 100% trust Srceenplay’s claim, I would say no. For instance, why target me? I understand that Srceen might be reasonably certain that I am Town, and (maybe?) thinks I am worth protecting. But nobody has me as their top Town read (from what I can recall). And I have gotten into a few arguments with players amongst which I am now fairly certain there’s Town (Judge Mental, Mantis, Urist, and Josh…). As Scum, I just feel like you might want to eliminate the Town players both least likely to be mislynched and least likely to create an association back to you. I am not that player. Which is why Pyx trying to protect Mantis just intuitively makes sense to me. And Srceen claiming to have protected me last night does not. And that’s just the beginning. The claims that we have seen just make it less likely that Srceen is telling the truth. However, if he is, it means that one of the least powerful claims is probably the Scum (and quite obviously lying about their power). Urist fits that profile. I would be fine with anybody arguing that I do too. I’m as close to a Vanilla as it gets. At least until I investigate this Orb I collected from Josh.
I think you get the point. From surveying the votes, I do not think we have enough people willing to vote for Urist today. So I think that lynching Srceen and sorting them both makes a certain amount of sense. If Srceen is telling the truth, I think people (*cough* Mantis *cough*) will be more willing to reconsider their hard stances on this.
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I took another close look at Urist. We all gots blemishes but I don’t think it’s him. Yeah, he looks bad on not hammering cabd D1 and moving the wagon to smilodon, and he has maybe the weakest claim of a “racecop” and being N1 blocked with no block message, and I don’t agree with Mantis’ “lock town” thingie, but she’s right on his defenses of MS and I think he has enough townie points on other stuff to maybe be OK. I mean, the lizard isn’t clicking, so that has o mean something.
On the other hand, the VCA on Screen and Andres looks pretty sketch. I agree that IF MS has some sooper power and is town then Screen’s is too much, esp. if Josh or Andres are to be believed. The tricky part there is IF there’s an Indie 3P, who might need us to lynch town anyway.
I know you have doubts, but I can swallow a Scum!Screen all up in the D1 theatre with Nanook and cabd (as a planned theme), trying to fish out a cop with his false inno on you. And, though it’s harder, I can see a Scum!Screen faux claiming Bulletproof Doc to out my Bodyguard. But I can’t abide a Scum!Screen not putting in a kill last night unless it was an option between that and using some other power he felt was more important. I could still vote there, and I know Mantis is eager to get on with it, but I’d like to be more confident of Andres and you.
I’m really having a hard time adding up townie points for Andres.
You make a good point that a fake claimed doc would probably still put in a kill order.
After all, their scum buddy has just been lynched, we have to assume they are alone on the scum board, so then they say, right, lets not kill anyone?
What do you make of Andre’s saying that Srceen choosing to protect him (andre) is a mark against srceen?