why did you revote? what changed in the short period of time that gave you such a sudden enlightenment then made you retract the game-winning play?
because theres no such thing
itâs time to lynch josh
josh is scum because town-josh never lynches me here
yes, because they saw the accidental softclaim that mantis even saw and highlighted earlier.
pyxâs last post convinces me that he is town
therefore currently i believe the following people are town:
{urist, mantis, andres, pyx, catspurr}
the following I would think theyâre town normally but now I have doubts on their alignment:
{screenplay, judgemental, cabd}
the following i think are playing to a scum win condition:
{josh}
we shouldl ynch josh as we should have yeasterday
sorry urist but i dont think pyx is scum after his last post
Pyx, I hopped because with Urist and Nanook off the Cabd wagon, I thought it would be unlikely that we would achieve a Cabd lynch with such limited time left (and I thought it was necessary to lynch someone I was not Town reading to move the game forward). I was also falling asleep at the time (you will notice that I put the vote down and disappeared). I regret not having questioned it more.
You also shouldnât ignore that Srceenplay in #1525 is the first person to introduce Smilodon as a viable alternative, which I argued should be Cabd instead (with a vote on #1528).
I donât know if I agree that there would have been no Town cred from lynching a fellow Scum player (should Cabd be Scum). I think that if we had achieved a lynch of Cabd and he flips Scum, we would have looked closely at those that were around but did not vote first, before considering those that stalled but ended up voting. Itâs just a feeling - I canât say for sure. It certainly buys you some time if you spin it correctly. If Cabd is Town, then Urist hammering there next to Nanook, after stating that thereâs Scum on the wagon, is probably a bad idea.
You know, your entire analysis rests on Urist being Scum with Nanook, and itâs based on where they were in the wagons at the end of the day. And itâs not the easiest sell. Nanook could have been buddying Urist up there at the end to make him look bad later. Donât get me wrong, I have certainly argued that itâs possible that Urist is Scum. And those end of day interactions still make me question Uristâs alignment. I just donât know.
No one else is poo pooing the smilodon lynch. It happened because we were pressed for time and needed a lynch. It would have been ridiculous to have a no lynch after 2 weeks. This was all talked about in the thread
lets vote josh together and save the metal hedgehogs. they are an endangered species
Hey, I hate no-lynches too, I just know that 13 favours it when thereâs no clear target.
I just donât think we even went for an iffy target. We picked someone we knew wouldnât be around and in a slot that was looking to be turned around, imo. I even agree with Judge that smilodon likely is relieved by it, but it was a terrible lynch, especially for a CFD. Though, OK, AKFD/smilodon wound up being VT. Iâll even grant that were the CFD initiated by MRers our natural superiority (not) to the MSers may have been more successful, since weâve largely met with success at MR using CFDs.
But youâre a hybrid - youâre both MR and MS. As one perhaps more used to 8-day days you should know thereâs no difference just for the time factor. I mean, we didnât âneedâ a lynch, and it would not have been âridiculousâ, imo. It may have fostered the âapathyâ Andres mentioned (cats, Judge, smilodon, and I probably wanted to die as soon as we signed on, on the time factor alone), but does having 4 subs do any less? For players used to such elongated games a D1 no-lynch with 13 players should be a simple matter of strategy, not time.
All Iâve meant is that it seems odd to me that, as you say, after 2 weeks, we choose in minutes with CFD OUTSIDE any of the prominent wagons earlier throughout that time. Itâs as if EVERYONE on that wagon knew it was an acceptible compromise between scum and town - scum gets a dead known townie and town gets to pat themselves on the back saying, âLook! we accomplished somethingâ.
It made me sad when you brought up the betrayal of potato annie. Iâll think about Josh. Who is his partner?
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@Urist, maybe youâve said, but why is it you think cabd did not claim yesterday? Was is just not being around when he went to 5 and 6?
im thinking hard. one of the above list.
iâm not sure if josh is certainly slam dunk scum or not, but heâs definitely helping scum here whichever color role pm he got from our wonderful host fferyllt
VOTE: unvote
^ and yesterday, the cabd wagon was completely grown in cabdâs ansence. He didnât have a vote on him when he last posted that day.
so?
it doesnt indicate anything honestly give nthe game state weâre in
In his first post today, Cabd said he wasnât around when he got wagoned. Dunno if thatâs true, he could have just been lurking like he seems to be now.