9p Mountainous (2, 8)

just wow.

I’m going to read through this tomorrow.

really don’t think either of you are scum will confirm it again I guess.

Again, hard bussing is not my style. Now that I’ve said this fully expect me to try it in a game that I’m Scum. This, however, is not that game.

I’m not even necessarily arguing that, what I’m arguing is that you should know better than to scum read me here. I think you scum reading me over GTacc, at the very least, is silly. Go look at GTacc’s iso and he has yet to make a two line post. I think that letting GTacc active lurk this game and not make a single substantize post and say that he’s out of his scum range is ridiculous just because he bussed Duskfall there.

At the very least, if you were scum, I don’t think I would be able to identify a clear progression of posts to demonstrate it. I would just say “this is how I feel” and vote. That’s the way I normally play the game. I understand that if I incorporated more hard analysis into my game it would improve, but no, don’t expect that from me unless I’m just really stepping out of my element.

I can’t read that guy. So I won’t pretend to. I’ve tried my best here to really pay attention to what’s happening. Like I know I’m not the best at catching Scum. But I know in my gut that DS is Town. And you’ve been shading there the entire game. That’s what forced me to look a little harder at you.

I won’t say that everything I did with DS was entirely in good faith, but I do feel like it was inherently more useful than sitting on GTacc or Dan.

For instance, the questioning today was almost entirely trolling. I was bored sitting in my lab office, and kinda hoped that DS would blow up and spew himself hard.

I won’t say that a part of me still wants to believe that this is DS’ most elaborate AtE scum performance ever, and we’re going to catch him out, and then everything’s going to back back to normal afterwards, but I have been doubting it more recently.

Can you go into your Dan read? Like certainty percentage? I dont have a good dan tell yet

im assuming you havent noticed that I’ve blocked you on discord yet

I did notice. I tried to message you the night you threatened to leave and like remind you that you’re cared about and when I found out that you blocked me that hurt me really bad.

Like I know that we don’t dm much anyways, but I couldn’t believe that you just straight up didn’t even want to hear from me again.

Maybe some of my play has been in response to that. I’m not sure.

You know what my issue with you this game is? I don’t remember you hard committing to a read at all. You’ve been all over the place, voting people you had called Town earlier, now potentially flipping on me, and so on. Yet, for some reason, you were completely unable to put a vote down for most of D1 when Dusk was going down. Why?

I mean, you had enough earlier to put GTacc in a Town core. Which btw, is partly a sheeped read from Chess. So why question it now?

I’m like 60% he’s Town. I don’t think he would just clear two players yesterday (as Scum) and leave them both alive and NK Nuxl, but he’s smart enough to play with that. His statement that he’s Town here but to just lynch him is also unlikely to come from Scum, IMO.

Also, all this after I called him my Top SR? It could be him playing the long game, but it didn’t strike me as such.

You have called everybody in the room town at some point in the game including me. You town cored me d1, and didn’t even describe it as a town lean or a strong town. You just said explicitly “M2H is town.” For you to push anybody in the room right now, you have to push a town read.

I have to question my previous reads because they clearly were wrong.

I don’t hard commit to reads as town ever. Andres actually go read Parity Cop 3, 4 and tell me what my town play there looks like to you. Then again, you scum read me there too I think.

Scum me takes credit for not lynching StarV after Unvoting and calling him Town (after suspecting him) when you had all collectively agreed he was Scum. Why did I return towards the end of the day and undo that? If I know everyone’s alignment, why do I not either (i) maintain that SR consistently throughout or (ii) come back when the job of me acting as Town as possible had been achieved? And even worse, why do I rock the boat now? If I’m Scum, I’m coasting right now. I don’t have to do any of this. Yet here I am, trying to figure this out.

You did the reverse - you called him Town, only to hammer him to avoid… end of day shenanigans? Which ones exactly? Because it was just me and you, and even with both of our votes the StarV lynch was not getting undone at that point.

I haven’t voted you. I haven’t even called you scum. I expressed doubts but I expressed it as paranoia–for me to refer thinking that you could be scum as paranoia demonstrates that I really don’t think you are scum. Literally the only thing that caused me to second guess myself was you turning on me. I genuinely feel that in a level headed state, you should be able to identify this as not being my scum game unless you just thing my scum play is getting exponentially better every ranked game I play.

If I left my vote on Gtacc, StarV could have possibly came in and tied the vote in which case scum team breaks ties. I don’t remember what exactly was running through my mind at the time, but it felt better to vote somebody that I town read rather than to let some kind of shift happen with 1 minute on the clock. At that point any shifts in voting aren’t going to be good for town imo.

Like honestly @Andresvmb go back through the day and tell me whether I was this bold and confident when we were scum together. This is night and day, and I understand that you’re probably town and falling victim to end game paranoia too, but if you are acting in good faith then I think you can realize that scum!m2h does not play like this after losing his partner d1.

There’s probably the fact as well, that if Duskfall98 wouldn’t zero post for Nuxl or DS, he probably wouldn’t zero post for me either. I’m probably closer to Dusk than DS, but not as close to him as Nuxl. Even when I had to be coached post by post, Duskfall98 never completely abandoned me.

You’re just defending yourself. You’re not being bold and confident with any read, except for consistently SR DS who for some reason you have now deemed Town. Like help me understand.

So who does he 0 post for? GTacc?