3 visionaries VS 10 lemmings Night 2

How much do you trust the restraint of this roster

I mean, I don’t think it matters. Zone’s first instinct here was to attack Chess and me. I think that’s completely ridiculous. Obviously the attack on me is indefensible so Zone dropped it, but I think it’s quite indicative of desperation. The self-vote makes it even worse.

Not saying it guarantees a sweep. But we all know this has to happen at some point.

I mean sure probably maybe but clams first is still better imo

If we’re gonna do something we’re gonna do it right

I like clams

I see. Thank you for answering my question.


well then, to everyone who attacks me: I have several questions for you.
Is my behavior matching that of a scum who “hinted” a night-only scumchat?
Does act this truly benefit me as scum?
Was it a slip? Was it boredom?
Is there any “world” where I am town, who is ready to mock you all post-mortem?
Am I even the only option, or am I the perfect scapegoat?
Do you even have to care whether I am town or scum, since there are still 8 towns left excluding yourself?

Elaborate. How is it correct based on a VT claim?
How is it correct on an attack of someone who attacks me out of nowhere, given the fact that I didn’t know what PT means?

Yeah. This is fine. Just don’t wait too long.
Y’all need to make a move at one point.

Regarding first instinct, and it being ridiculous: 
sigh, it isn’t ridiculous, but sure. Meta is something that I can only teach by dying over and over again. Good thing town can afford a mislynch or two.
Regarding me attacking you: I don’t care what you are. Don’t you EVER dare say that I did ANYTHING out of desperation.
Regarding the self vote: Well, you are already voting me, so now all I gotta do is attract others to rally with you; die; and then laugh at deadchat at how you are wrong.

I mean, I said it. Deal with it.

There’s clearly a lot of roles going around. Even if we’re wrong, since we can afford to mislynch a few times, the fact that you don’t have a role mitigates some of the damage.

62.2% win rate as town, huh?
Too bad I can’t decrease it by dying.
@LastMafia, do your best. I am rooting for you post-mortem.

I tend to do okay. Not the greatest Town player by any means.

Wait, so you mean “it is the correct decision” and not “it is correct that he is scum”? Because if so, then I can live with this. (I still can’t live with being shaded though. I HATE people who say X are acting because of Y without knowing the real reason. Those people are worse than hypocrites.)

Well, it’s not like you’re going to agree that I perceive something you’re doing as desperation. It doesn’t make me a hypocrite (or worse).

And yes, I don’t claim to be all-knowing. I said it was correct mostly because of your claim and due to the fact that I perceive your attack to be misguided.

Let’s try to keep things friendly

Also, this wouldn’t be the first time that I’ve said that something was ridiculous and I was totally wrong. So take it with a grain of salt.

I will say that I can’t quite square this. What kind of reasonable person would give themselves away like this? I did have you as Town even after the end of D1, and Elli agreed. @Ellibereth can you update your view here?

Whoops. In the first quotes, I meant “it is the correct decision to lynch him”.


fine. For the record, I am a hypocrite myself. People who judge others and blabber their nonsense about other people without being an omniscient; I hate those people than I hate myself.

As for my attack being misguided; as I have stated in my wall post; my meta of being a Village Idiot is not something anyone can understand if I tell you about it. You have to understand how reckless I play first-hand or second-hand from those who have suffered from me. You see it as misguided; I see it as “I do whatever I want to do, and this and that is what I did.”

Will try. Emphasis on try.

On a professional’s level, you are not wrong. However, you are severely mistaken if you think that there would be no fools in the world who made up the term “Village Idiots”.
Nobody is the same. Not everyone can play as good or even “average” as you, so they/we either play like a griefer/troller/gremlin, or they play the game knowing that they will play bad.

My personal opinion is that you are misguided in that you think everyone has to be reasonable.
I personally view myself as chaotic, in that I am sometimes reasonable and sometimes I throw away my logic for the sake of ridiculous reasons, but
 that’s a subjective matter.

Hm
 Would it help you if I were to give you my past 5 games?

I’m saying that even if you are chaotic in style, I don’t expect a half-decent Mafia player to give themselves up like that.

And yeah link a few games I’ll take a look.

Well in that case, thank you! To be honest, if I were scum this game, then I would’ve immediately PM’ed the host and say that I give up. 9v1 with suspicion on me? Yeah, hell no. Not even AtE will save me, since it is the reasonable option to weed out the suspects from PoE.

Town Games

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/79862
https://forum.imperium42.com/t/79915
https://forum.mafia451.com/t/3284

Scum Games

https://forum.imperium42.com/t/75730
https://www.pokebeach.com/forums/threads/149900/
https://forum.novelupdates.com/threads/95153/


Here’s a WIFOM as a present: My win rate is 39.5% as town and 66.7% as scum.

1 Mafia VS 9 Town.

I don’t think we lose.

VOTE: ZoneQ11