Parity Cop 9'er (1, 2) OVER

I would have respected you more if you said eww to the Heineken. This stuff is repulsive.

I only drink AnchorSteam so

Anything that allows me to feel like Iā€™m dead, even if itā€™s absolutely terrible for taste.

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Danā€™s actually not a bad place to look eventually as well if he doesnt shape up soon

That ā€œoh the dickwaving turned me off thatā€™s why I didnā€™t take any stancesā€ seems lazy

Story of your life

Well see I donā€™t agree. And hereā€™s why. Unfortunately I canā€™t get into Cheetā€™s motivations for selecting Urist. But what I think he was doing is picking any player and asking you to take a view because he felt you hadnā€™t been Scum hunting at all, and he was trying to make that point. I mean, look at #164-165. But the reason he seems to have firmly believed it is because you had mostly discussed strategy, which he clearly stated thought was bullshit:

This is criticism of your groupings in that strategy post. Or you not agree? Basically heā€™s saying that your strategy is totally divorced from analyzing how players are actually playing, which he said you should actually be doing and is hard to fake as Scum.

i donā€™t think that andres made anything up. I think the most likely situation is that he was simply mistaken. Itā€™s easy to get confused on who is giving what reasons for voting you because all the reasons are pretty close to the same. And Cheetoā€™s reasons for voting you were, in my opinion, pretty muddy and fluid.
To be honest I didnā€™t like your attack on Andres. I agree with whoever said that you should have just clarified for him or vice-versa.

I think this is best illustrated by how everyone read me first before reading other players. How can I give reads if Iā€™m one of the first players to the table?

Also, I agree with @Urist which is why Iā€™ve already said that I liked @Andresvmb response to me even though I think itā€™s still misguided/false.

Hello I have finished work but wonā€™t be home till later then I go to dinner. On phone. Will try

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So he attacked your whole approach, stated plainly that seeking out Scum was always better (#77), and then tried to force you to develop reads.

Now, Iā€™ll give you this. If you Scum read him because you felt he was trying to force you into a read of Urist, and didnā€™t pay much attention to anything else, then I have to give you the benefit of the doubt there. But donā€™t say Iā€™m inventing shit - itā€™s a totally valid interpretation of what happened particularly after reading through to catch up.

I have a tendency to aggressively flame people :frowning: I canā€™t help it.

I mean, I think Iā€™ve already said this a few times in different ways, I understand your angle, but I seriously disagree with your conclusion about Cheetā€™s motivations, which probably lead to you overly town reading that slot and me overly scum reading it.

Where in reality, I guess itā€™s kind of a neutral slotā€¦ Which is why I downgraded it to third on my list (I mean, it was temporarily 4th while I was pressuring you).

I mean I donā€™t feel pressured. I thought I had developed a view that was grounded in what was written. But I did make an inference about your thinking that you have stated you disagree with so who am I to say what you were thinking? Iā€™m just saying - with how things were moving, my view (and Duskā€™s in #227) arenā€™t ridiculous, and you aggressively attacking me for it does prove my point that youā€™re acting defensively (and not helping yourself).

hi scum

please kill me tonight

also, Andres is my top town read

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@chesskid3 Iā€™ve read your posts I think I get whatā€™s been driving your view of StarV. Are you still feeling the same way after all the recent posts?

Also, if Urist is pocketing me here, Iā€™m going to be pissed at myself but I give him the lowest odds of flipping Scum.

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I guess this was answered in #396 just confirming.

I dont know who to vote for

Actual photo taken of Chesskid3 last night:

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I think your ranking is bullshit but I donā€™t think this is. Chess is good at this game (thatā€™s my opinion). If heā€™s Scum, does he really push a ā€œweakā€ player? You donā€™t think he would go for bigger fish? Eliminating ā€œweakā€ players only works if you can just lynch weak players the whole way and win the game (like in SoDope). Iā€™m not sold it would work here, and it does create a fair amount of suspicion to go for what some people think is ā€œeasyā€ when the player list is mostly decent/good Town.

Now, I donā€™t actually think Star is ā€œthe weakest playerā€ - he can stand up for himself and even though he is a decent target for a mislynch (I canā€™t say I would trust a read Star had for my life), he can create a lot of noise and come to some good conclusions (mostly later in the game Iā€™ve found). But you seem to believe this is what heā€™s doing which is why Iā€™m asking.