I mean, it’s not exactly new that he’s disagreeing with me.
I feel like I townread you last game we played too but idk
Yeah, I think the simple answer here is still likely the best answer.
My only real misgiving here is that we’re evaluating based on pro-town/anti-town, but, like, I really don’t know how else to scumhunt in a game like this.
Yeah, also Elli’s placement of tn seems to be an attempt to fuel @Urist who has been scum reading tn.
Yeah, if it were anyone other than Elli with the same play, I would be far less confident.
Agreed on Elli, my worry is more about the middle ground reads for me. Like, the team is probably just Urist/Elli. But the POE that helped get me there involves a fair bit of “this player is pro town and this one isn’t,” and that’s kinda worrying tbh.
It’s probably just the simple answer though.
Yeah, I think we keep Elli in a corner away from Urist, DS, KGB and we’re probably good.
Then we only lose on scum!clem or town!elli.
Either way, kind of deserved 
Yeah I think I agree.
Something like
TN/Nanook (or Star), Urist, Katy, DS, Star or Nanook, Elli
maybe
Does it worry you that we have the exact same read?
On Elli? Not really, lol.
If it were someone else i guess it might…but, like, I just can’t summon much paranoia for someone else recognizing elli’s disengaged “leave no associatives and let my partner carry me” scum play lol
I am going to be really disappointed by Elli if he is scum here and is not even trying to combat his known scum meta
I’m going to be even more disappointed in Elli if he’s town here tbh
- Nanook
- Katy
- Urist
- Tn
- DS
- StarV
- Elli
Debate.
The basics of my order is that my Top Scum Read here is Urist, and if it’s Urist I’m not placing Elli anywhere near him. I think it’s also highly unlikely that DS and StarV are the Team here.
I’m most confident in Nanook but again, if Nanook is Scum then good for him I think we just lose here. And I’m willing to gamble on a Town Katy here.
I am not mind-melding with StarV at all and that’s really worrying me, but it’s just possible that the way we look at Mafia is completely different. I’m not seeing the DS Scum Read or the calling out of the “Scum MO” and that’s after reading some of DS’ games and trying to get a feel for what he does. Obviously it’s self-selection so I would be stupid to rely on that completely but there’s certain things you can’t hide I think.
This is truly my best attempt at this game after thinking about this all day and re-reading the thread.